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[[Computing]]: [[Operating Systems]]: [[Windows 98]]
[[Windows 98]]
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This article refers to Windows 98 Second Edition, usually abbreviated
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This article refers to Windows 98 Second Edition, usually abbreviated Win98SE or just Win98 or w98. The original release, usually referred to as "Windows 98 Original Edition", "Windows 98 First Edition", or "Win98FE", was apparently quite buggy and I don't know of anyone using it who has not upgraded to SE.
Win98SE or just Win98 or w98. The original release, usually referred to
 
as "Windows 98 Original Edition", "Windows 98 First Edition", or
 
"Win98FE", was apparently quite buggy and I don't know of anyone using
 
it who has not upgraded to SE.
 
 
==Reviews==
 
==Reviews==
[[User:Woozle|Woozle]], 2005-06-25: Win98 strikes me as being a kind of
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'''[[User:Woozle|Woozle]], 2005-06-25''': Win98 strikes me as being a kind of pinnacle for single-user Windows, if you look at usability divided by bloat. Windows 95 didn't need as much memory to run, but it lacked support for certain things which became rather essential soon after Win98's release, such as USB and hard drives larger than 2 GB. In general, it was a successful reworking and enhancement of the basic Windows 95 design; more significant bugs were eliminated by the reworking than were introduced by the new features.
pinnacle for single-user Windows, if you look at usability divided by
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bloat. Windows 95 didn't need as much memory to run, but it lacked
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After Win98 came the disastrous WinME (which some people apparently do still use), after which Microsoft began to merge its single-user "9x" line (95, 98, and Me) with the multi-user, more security-conscious line started by Windows NT, resulting in Windows 2000 ("Win2k") and finally (so far) Windows XP (WinXP).
support for certain things which became rather essential soon after
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Win98's release, such as USB and hard drives larger than 2 GB. In
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From our perspective, Win2k and WinXP both have problems, even leaving out the cost (which is a significant factor). Win2k will not run [[Microsoft Access|Access 97]], and WinXP will not run [[PTC]], an ancient DOS-based credit-card processing application. I need both of these for my [http://wiki.vbz.net business]. As a result, I am working on a long-term conversion of all [[database]] operations to [[Linux]] (so we no longer depend on flaky Access 97 for data processing), and in the short term working on using [[emulators]] such as [[qemu]] so I am not depending on the Windows filesystem (FAT32) for essential data storage. (PTC needs to be eliminated; everyone else is using internet gateways or web-based credit card processing.) I am also watching closely at the development of [[ReactOS]], a [[FOSS]] Windows clone.
general, it was a successful reworking and enhancement of the basic
 
Windows 95 design; more significant bugs were eliminated by the
 
reworking than were introduced by the new features.
 
After Win98 came the disastrous WinME (which some people apparently do
 
still use), after which Microsoft began to merge its single-user "9x"
 
line (95, 98, and Me) with the multi-user, more security-conscious line
 
started by Windows NT, resulting in Windows 2000 ("Win2k") and finally
 
(so far) Windows XP (WinXP).
 
From our perspective, Win2k and WinXP both have problems, even leaving
 
out the cost (which is a significant factor). Win2k will not run
 
[[Microsoft Access|Access 97]], and WinXP will not run [[PTC]], an
 
ancient DOS-based credit-card processing application. I need both of
 
these for my [http://wiki.vbz.net business].
 
As a result, I am working on a long-term conversion of all database
 
operations to Linux (so we no longer depend on flaky Access 97 for data
 
processing), and in the short term working on using [[emulators]] such
 
as [[qemu]] so I am not depending on the Windows filesystem (FAT32) for
 
essential data storage. (PTC needs to be eliminated; everyone else is
 
using internet gateways or web-based credit card processing.) I am also
 
watching closely at the development of [[ReactOS]], a [[FOSS]] Windows
 
clone.
 
 
==Installation==
 
==Installation==
[[User:Woozle|Woozle]], 2005-06-25: What I usually do when setting up a
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'''[[User:Woozle|Woozle]], 2005-06-25''': What I usually do when setting up a new Win98 system -- especially if the hard drive is 5 GB or more (and if it's not, you probably shouldn't be running Win98 on it) is copy the essential setup files to the hard drive, and run the setup from there. This not only makes the install go faster, it also means you never have to find the CD again when installing device drivers or making changes to the network. If Windows asks for the setup CD, you just tell it to look in c:\etc\setup\win98, and it will be happy.
new Win98 system -- especially if the hard drive is 5 GB or more (and
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if it's not, you probably shouldn't be running Win98 on it) is copy the
 
essential setup files to the hard drive, and run the setup from there.
 
This not only makes the install go faster, it also means you never have
 
to find the CD again when installing device drivers or making changes
 
to the network. If Windows asks for the setup CD, you just tell it to
 
look in c:\etc\setup\win98, and it will be happy.
 
 
Here's the process:
 
Here's the process:
*boot to DOS -- either with a floppy, which an existing Win98
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*boot to DOS -- either with a floppy, which an existing Win98 installation will make for you, or with a bootable CD-ROM which you can make from the Win98SE Setup disk plus a bootable floppy
installation will make for you, or with a bootable CD-ROM which you can
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*'''format c:/s/v''' assuming it's not already formatted with FAT32; if it is, and there's data you want to keep, skip this step. You can leave off the "/v" if you don't like naming your disks; I do because it helps reduce confusion sometimes. If the disk is already formatted, you can instead type "sys c:" to make sure you have the Win98SE boot sector and system files.
make from the Win98SE Setup disk plus a bootable floppy
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*make the following folder: "c:\etc\setup\win98". ("c:\etc\setup" comes in handy for some other apps such as Microsoft Office 97, which has a "run from CD option" -- I usually just copy the whole CD over, then use that option.)
*'''format c:/s/v''' assuming it's not already formatted with FAT32; if
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*Run the following commands:
it is, and there's data you want to keep, skip this step. You can leave
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c:
off the "/v" if you don't like naming your disks; I do because it helps
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cd \etc\setup\win98
reduce confusion sometimes. If the disk is already formatted, you can
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a:
instead type "sys c:" to make sure you have the Win98SE boot sector and
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copy \setup\*.* c:
system files.
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:(Note: I may have the source path wrong. Need to check this.) This copies the install files from the Win98SE CD to your hard drive — about 130 MB worth, if I remember right. There are a lot of other folders which play no part in the Win98SE setup, and I'm really not sure how one is supposed to use them; this strips the install folder down to a minimum.
*make the following folder: "c:\etc\setup\win98". ("c:\etc\setup" comes
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*You can also delete anything having to do with "online services", as they are by now hopelessly out of date.
in handy for some other apps such as Microsoft Office 97, which has a
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*Remove the floppy or CD, and reboot to the hard drive. You may get a brief flicker of the Win98 splash screen, and then a prompt asking you which type of boot you want; the answer to that is that it doesn't matter, though you will get fewer error messages by selecting "with CD-ROM support".
"run from CD option" -- I usually just copy the whole CD over, then use
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*Run the following commands:
that option.)
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cd \etc\setup\win98
*Run the following commands: c: cd \etc\setup\win98 a: copy \setup\*.*
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setup
c:
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*Windows 98 Setup will now run, and rather faster than it runs from the CD.
:(Note: I may have the source path wrong. Need to check this.) This
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==Reference==
copies the install files from the Win98SE CD to your hard drive --
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*{{wikipedia|Windows_98}}
about 130 MB worth, if I remember right. There are a lot of other
 
folders which play no part in the Win98SE setup, and I'm really not
 
sure how one is supposed to use them; this strips the install folder
 
down to a minimum.
 
*You can also delete anything having to do with "online services", as
 
they are by now hopelessly out of date.
 
*Remove the floppy or CD, and reboot to the hard drive. You may get a
 
brief flicker of the Win98 splash screen, and then a prompt asking you
 
which type of boot
 
you want; the answer to that is that it doesn't matter, though you will
 
get fewer error messages by selecting "with CD-ROM support".
 
*Run the following commands: cd \etc\setup\win98 setup
 
*Windows 98 Setup will now run, and rather faster than it runs from the
 
CD.
 
==Links==
 
*[[WikiPedia:Windows_98|Wikipedia]]
 

Revision as of 00:02, 14 October 2005

Computing: Operating Systems: Windows 98

This article refers to Windows 98 Second Edition, usually abbreviated Win98SE or just Win98 or w98. The original release, usually referred to as "Windows 98 Original Edition", "Windows 98 First Edition", or "Win98FE", was apparently quite buggy and I don't know of anyone using it who has not upgraded to SE.

Reviews

Woozle, 2005-06-25: Win98 strikes me as being a kind of pinnacle for single-user Windows, if you look at usability divided by bloat. Windows 95 didn't need as much memory to run, but it lacked support for certain things which became rather essential soon after Win98's release, such as USB and hard drives larger than 2 GB. In general, it was a successful reworking and enhancement of the basic Windows 95 design; more significant bugs were eliminated by the reworking than were introduced by the new features.

After Win98 came the disastrous WinME (which some people apparently do still use), after which Microsoft began to merge its single-user "9x" line (95, 98, and Me) with the multi-user, more security-conscious line started by Windows NT, resulting in Windows 2000 ("Win2k") and finally (so far) Windows XP (WinXP).

From our perspective, Win2k and WinXP both have problems, even leaving out the cost (which is a significant factor). Win2k will not run Access 97, and WinXP will not run PTC, an ancient DOS-based credit-card processing application. I need both of these for my business. As a result, I am working on a long-term conversion of all database operations to Linux (so we no longer depend on flaky Access 97 for data processing), and in the short term working on using emulators such as qemu so I am not depending on the Windows filesystem (FAT32) for essential data storage. (PTC needs to be eliminated; everyone else is using internet gateways or web-based credit card processing.) I am also watching closely at the development of ReactOS, a FOSS Windows clone.

Installation

Woozle, 2005-06-25: What I usually do when setting up a new Win98 system -- especially if the hard drive is 5 GB or more (and if it's not, you probably shouldn't be running Win98 on it) is copy the essential setup files to the hard drive, and run the setup from there. This not only makes the install go faster, it also means you never have to find the CD again when installing device drivers or making changes to the network. If Windows asks for the setup CD, you just tell it to look in c:\etc\setup\win98, and it will be happy.

Here's the process:

  • boot to DOS -- either with a floppy, which an existing Win98 installation will make for you, or with a bootable CD-ROM which you can make from the Win98SE Setup disk plus a bootable floppy
  • format c:/s/v assuming it's not already formatted with FAT32; if it is, and there's data you want to keep, skip this step. You can leave off the "/v" if you don't like naming your disks; I do because it helps reduce confusion sometimes. If the disk is already formatted, you can instead type "sys c:" to make sure you have the Win98SE boot sector and system files.
  • make the following folder: "c:\etc\setup\win98". ("c:\etc\setup" comes in handy for some other apps such as Microsoft Office 97, which has a "run from CD option" -- I usually just copy the whole CD over, then use that option.)
  • Run the following commands:
c:
cd \etc\setup\win98
a:
copy \setup\*.* c:
(Note: I may have the source path wrong. Need to check this.) This copies the install files from the Win98SE CD to your hard drive — about 130 MB worth, if I remember right. There are a lot of other folders which play no part in the Win98SE setup, and I'm really not sure how one is supposed to use them; this strips the install folder down to a minimum.
  • You can also delete anything having to do with "online services", as they are by now hopelessly out of date.
  • Remove the floppy or CD, and reboot to the hard drive. You may get a brief flicker of the Win98 splash screen, and then a prompt asking you which type of boot you want; the answer to that is that it doesn't matter, though you will get fewer error messages by selecting "with CD-ROM support".
  • Run the following commands:
cd \etc\setup\win98
setup
  • Windows 98 Setup will now run, and rather faster than it runs from the CD.

Reference