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		<title>Woozle: moved dishonest stuff to Issuepedia</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;moved dishonest stuff to Issuepedia&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 15:19, 21 June 2020&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l9&quot;&gt;Line 9:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* [http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/Warning.html A WARNING FOR THOSE CONSIDERING MtF SRS] by [[Lynn Conway]]: transitioning for the wrong reasons: discusses Ren&amp;amp;eacute;e Richards, Dani Bunten Berry, Sandra MacDougall, Samantha Kane&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* [http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/Warning.html A WARNING FOR THOSE CONSIDERING MtF SRS] by [[Lynn Conway]]: transitioning for the wrong reasons: discusses Ren&amp;amp;eacute;e Richards, Dani Bunten Berry, Sandra MacDougall, Samantha Kane&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;2010-06-06&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; [http://bilerico.lgbtqnation.com/2010/06/sex_reassignment_surgery_when_things_go_wrong.php Sex Reassignment Surgery: When Things Go Wrong] -- article by a transwoman whose surgery, though genuinely wanted and for the right reasons, had gone poorly (her lower intestine was nicked by a surgical retractor) and she was stuck wearing a colostomy bag, and without a properly-shaped neovagina. &amp;#039;&amp;#039;I haven&amp;#039;t been able to find any information about whether she was ultimately able to get this fixed. --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] ([[User talk:Woozle|talk]]) 15:37, 5 September 2016 (EDT)&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;2010-06-06&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; [http://bilerico.lgbtqnation.com/2010/06/sex_reassignment_surgery_when_things_go_wrong.php Sex Reassignment Surgery: When Things Go Wrong] -- article by a transwoman whose surgery, though genuinely wanted and for the right reasons, had gone poorly (her lower intestine was nicked by a surgical retractor) and she was stuck wearing a colostomy bag, and without a properly-shaped neovagina. &amp;#039;&amp;#039;I haven&amp;#039;t been able to find any information about whether she was ultimately able to get this fixed. --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] ([[User talk:Woozle|talk]]) 15:37, 5 September 2016 (EDT)&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;anti-trans propagandists&lt;/del&gt;=&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;==&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Reference&lt;/ins&gt;==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;{{issuepedia|&lt;/ins&gt;Sex &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;reassignment surgery&lt;/ins&gt;/&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;misrepresentation}}&lt;/ins&gt;: &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;there are frequent attempts &lt;/ins&gt;to &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;misrepresent SRS as harmful or useless&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;This stuff should be mostly moved to Issuepedia&#039;&#039;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Walt Heyer:&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** [http://www.sexchangeregret.com/ &lt;/del&gt;Sex &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Change Regret], a site by Walt Heyer: presents views that contradict the scientific consensus&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** [http://www.waltheyer.com&lt;/del&gt;/ &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Sex Change Info] by Walt Heyer&lt;/del&gt;: &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;same applies&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** &#039;&#039;&#039;2015-06-02&#039;&#039;&#039; [http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/06/02/what-the-media-should-know-about-walt-heyer-and/203855 What The Media Should Know About Walt Heyer And &quot;Transition Regrets&quot;]&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* Jerry Leach&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** &#039;&#039;&#039;2013-12-24&#039;&#039;&#039; [http://www.gendertree.com/Jerry_Leach_Experience.htm Jerry Leach Esxperience]&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;===notes===&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* Walt Heyer and Jerry Leach, both of whom have apparently made careers out of their surgery regrets, allegedly both lied to their therapists in order to get surgery recommendations. (Still trying &lt;/del&gt;to &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;track down this claim.)&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Woozle: Created page with &quot;==About== Much is made about post-surgical regret, but as far as I can tell this happens only for one of the following reasons: * The patient is coerced into surgery as a cond...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2020-06-21T00:44:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;==About== Much is made about post-surgical regret, but as far as I can tell this happens only for one of the following reasons: * The patient is coerced into surgery as a cond...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;==About==&lt;br /&gt;
Much is made about post-surgical regret, but as far as I can tell this happens only for one of the following reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
* The patient is coerced into surgery as a condition for receiving other services or supplies necessary for transitioning (e.g. hormones)&lt;br /&gt;
* The patient has mistaken ideas about the benefits or risks of surgery, and is allowed to proceed without first being fully informed (this is why the &amp;quot;informed&amp;quot; part of [[informed consent]] is crucial)&lt;br /&gt;
* The surgery goes badly (seems to be very rare),&lt;br /&gt;
* The surgery results in reduced genital sensation, which sometimes leads to regret.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===links===&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/Warning.html A WARNING FOR THOSE CONSIDERING MtF SRS] by [[Lynn Conway]]: transitioning for the wrong reasons: discusses Ren&amp;amp;eacute;e Richards, Dani Bunten Berry, Sandra MacDougall, Samantha Kane&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;2010-06-06&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; [http://bilerico.lgbtqnation.com/2010/06/sex_reassignment_surgery_when_things_go_wrong.php Sex Reassignment Surgery: When Things Go Wrong] -- article by a transwoman whose surgery, though genuinely wanted and for the right reasons, had gone poorly (her lower intestine was nicked by a surgical retractor) and she was stuck wearing a colostomy bag, and without a properly-shaped neovagina. &amp;#039;&amp;#039;I haven&amp;#039;t been able to find any information about whether she was ultimately able to get this fixed. --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] ([[User talk:Woozle|talk]]) 15:37, 5 September 2016 (EDT)&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
===anti-trans propagandists===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;This stuff should be mostly moved to Issuepedia&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Walt Heyer:&lt;br /&gt;
** [http://www.sexchangeregret.com/ Sex Change Regret], a site by Walt Heyer: presents views that contradict the scientific consensus&lt;br /&gt;
** [http://www.waltheyer.com/ Sex Change Info] by Walt Heyer: same applies&lt;br /&gt;
** &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;2015-06-02&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; [http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/06/02/what-the-media-should-know-about-walt-heyer-and/203855 What The Media Should Know About Walt Heyer And &amp;quot;Transition Regrets&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
* Jerry Leach&lt;br /&gt;
** &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;2013-12-24&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; [http://www.gendertree.com/Jerry_Leach_Experience.htm Jerry Leach Esxperience]&lt;br /&gt;
===notes===&lt;br /&gt;
* Walt Heyer and Jerry Leach, both of whom have apparently made careers out of their surgery regrets, allegedly both lied to their therapists in order to get surgery recommendations. (Still trying to track down this claim.)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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