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		<title>Woozle: /* Issue Summary */ one more thing</title>
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		<updated>2014-07-10T17:53:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Issue Summary: &lt;/span&gt; one more thing&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 17:53, 10 July 2014&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l7&quot;&gt;Line 7:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 7:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;These issues remained in effect as of Spring 2014.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;These issues remained in effect as of Spring 2014.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* The ordering window is very narrow -- typically only a few days.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* The ordering window is very narrow -- typically only a few days.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* The ordering window is not stated on the site.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* The ordering window is not stated on the site&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, nor are there notifications from the site regarding when it has been set&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* There is no way to place repeating orders.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* There is no way to place repeating orders.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* It is not clear why there is a need for an ordering window in the first place.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* It is not clear why there is a need for an ordering window in the first place.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
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		<title>Woozle: /* Issue Summary */ one more</title>
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		<updated>2014-07-10T17:21:56Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Issue Summary: &lt;/span&gt; one more&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 17:21, 10 July 2014&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l9&quot;&gt;Line 9:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 9:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* The ordering window is not stated on the site.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* The ordering window is not stated on the site.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* There is no way to place repeating orders.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* There is no way to place repeating orders.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* It is not clear why there is a need for an ordering window in the first place.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* The site is often down, or the checkout process is broken.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* The site is often down, or the checkout process is broken.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* The cart times out after a very small number of minutes (~4 minutes or less).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* The cart times out after a very small number of minutes (~4 minutes or less).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l19&quot;&gt;Line 19:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 20:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** It would be standard business practice to send an email confirming the amount paid, payment method, meals ordered (for each: date for delivery, what was ordered from whom, cost), and a reference number.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** It would be standard business practice to send an email confirming the amount paid, payment method, meals ordered (for each: date for delivery, what was ordered from whom, cost), and a reference number.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* The site has a number of bad internal links and can be difficult to navigate. Some information is available but hidden, with no clear indication that it is available.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* The site has a number of bad internal links and can be difficult to navigate. Some information is available but hidden, with no clear indication that it is available.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Narrative==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Narrative==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I took notes as I attempted to place an order. I&amp;#039;ll mark any substantial objections or questions in &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;bold&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I took notes as I attempted to place an order. I&amp;#039;ll mark any substantial objections or questions in &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;bold&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<title>Woozle: summary of issues; corrected some details</title>
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		<updated>2014-07-10T17:12:41Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;summary of issues; corrected some details&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 17:12, 10 July 2014&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[LunchWorks]] (LW), while providing a very useful service that does work most of the time, has some unnecessary annoyances that make it frustrating to use.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[LunchWorks]] (LW), while providing a very useful service that does work most of the time, has some unnecessary annoyances that make it frustrating to use.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I captured a series of screenshots while completing an order that Sandy had already added to the cart &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;(&lt;/del&gt;but not completed, due to problems I&#039;ll mention when I get there&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;)&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I captured a series of screenshots while completing an order &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;for lunch at [[Camelot Academy/LunchWorks|Camelot Academy]] &lt;/ins&gt;that Sandy had already added to the cart but not completed, due to problems I&#039;ll mention when I get there.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The complete series of screenshots is [[/2012-02-08|here]], but &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;here&lt;/del&gt;&#039;s the &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;story -- I&#039;ll mark any substantial objections &lt;/del&gt;or &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;questions in &#039;&#039;&#039;bold&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The complete series of screenshots is [[/2012-02-08|here]]&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;; below is a list of issues, followed by a step-by-step walk-through of an attempt to place an order.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;==Issue Summary==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;These issues remained in effect as of Spring 2014.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* The ordering window is very narrow -- typically only a few days.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* The ordering window is not stated on the site.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* There is no way to place repeating orders.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* The site is often down, or the checkout process is broken.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* The cart times out after a very small number of minutes (~4 minutes or less).&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* These factors all combine to produce the end result that you may have to make repeated ordering attempts over several days in order to avoid gaps in lunch service, and you have to be very diligent in keeping your own records of what you ordered.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* The site claims to offer credit card payment as an option (indeed, the only option)&lt;/ins&gt;, but &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;in fact only takes PayPal.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* The site unnecessarily requires the buyer&lt;/ins&gt;&#039;s &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;contact information.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* The site configures the handoff to PayPal in a way that causes PayPal not to display a payment total. If you want to verify &lt;/ins&gt;the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;total before paying, you have to go back 2 or 3 screens (which may require multiple logins).&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* The checkout process claims that a breakdown of order contents will be provided &quot;later&quot;, but this never happens.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* The site claims &lt;/ins&gt;or &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;implies it will send email confirmations when orders are placed, but it does not.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** It would be standard business practice to send an email confirming the amount paid, payment method, meals ordered (for each: date for delivery, what was ordered from whom, cost), and a reference number.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* The site has a number of bad internal links and can be difficult to navigate. Some information is available but hidden, with no clear indication that it is available&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Narrative==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Narrative==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I took notes as I attempted to place an order. I&#039;ll mark any substantial objections or questions in &#039;&#039;&#039;bold&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;After [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 01 - login.crop.png|logging in]], the [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 02 - post-login.crop.png|next page]] made it simple enough to find the previously-loaded [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 03 - shopping cart.crop.png|shopping cart]] to confirm that everything was correct.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;After [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 01 - login.crop.png|logging in]], the [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 02 - post-login.crop.png|next page]] made it simple enough to find the previously-loaded [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 03 - shopping cart.crop.png|shopping cart]] to confirm that everything was correct.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l21&quot;&gt;Line 21:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 38:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I should note that this was one place where Sandy was having serious trouble with the site a couple of weeks ago. We complained to the school, who eventually put me in touch with one of the developers -- I described the problem in detail, but got no response. I have no idea if they were able to actually fix something, or if the problem was transient and went away on its own (and may come back the same way). (This problem occurred again on 2012-02-26, which would have caused us to miss the ordering window if the school hadn&amp;#039;t covered us.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I should note that this was one place where Sandy was having serious trouble with the site a couple of weeks ago. We complained to the school, who eventually put me in touch with one of the developers -- I described the problem in detail, but got no response. I have no idea if they were able to actually fix something, or if the problem was transient and went away on its own (and may come back the same way). (This problem occurred again on 2012-02-26, which would have caused us to miss the ordering window if the school hadn&amp;#039;t covered us.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &#039;&#039;&#039;Problem&#039;&#039;&#039;: The PayPal screen claims, on the left, that &quot;You&#039;ll be able to see your order details before you pay.&quot; &#039;&#039;&#039;This is incorrect.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &#039;&#039;&#039;Problem&#039;&#039;&#039;: The &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 07 - PayPal 2.crop.png|&lt;/ins&gt;PayPal screen&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]] &lt;/ins&gt;claims, on the left, that &quot;You&#039;ll be able to see your order details before you pay.&quot; &#039;&#039;&#039;This is incorrect.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** This is not a PayPal issue; compare with [[:File:2012-02-08 PayPal screenshot - TheRealms.crop.png|this screenshot]] of an almost identical checkout process from [[TheRealms]], a very small web hosting company (they have, I think, one part-time employee-owner). This latter screenshot not only does not claim that you&amp;#039;ll be able to get more information before paying, but in fact gives a brief rundown of what you&amp;#039;re paying for, including the amount and an invoice number.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** This is not a PayPal issue; compare with [[:File:2012-02-08 PayPal screenshot - TheRealms.crop.png|this screenshot]] of an almost identical checkout process from [[TheRealms]], a very small web hosting company (they have, I think, one part-time employee-owner). This latter screenshot not only does not claim that you&amp;#039;ll be able to get more information before paying, but in fact gives a brief rundown of what you&amp;#039;re paying for, including the amount and an invoice number.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** The LunchWorks checkout &#039;&#039;&#039;doesn&#039;t even &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;tell you &lt;/del&gt;how much you&#039;re paying&#039;&#039;&#039;, much less break it down or give you a reference number. &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;There &lt;/del&gt;is &#039;&#039;absolutely no way&#039;&#039;, at this point, to be sure that what you&#039;re about to authorize PayPal to debit is what you in fact want to pay for. It doesn&#039;t even mention &quot;LunchWorks&quot;, but only the name of the school.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** The LunchWorks checkout &#039;&#039;&#039;doesn&#039;t even &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;confirm &lt;/ins&gt;how much you&#039;re paying&#039;&#039;&#039;, much less break it down or give you a reference number. &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;An order total is shown [[[[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 04 - payment.crop.png|earlier]], but this amount is not repeated before the handoff to PayPal -- so if you get logged out and need to complete an order started earlier, there&#039;s no indication as to whether you are still paying the same amount, much less whether your cart still has the same contents. In other words, there &lt;/ins&gt;is &#039;&#039;absolutely no way&#039;&#039;, at this point, to be sure that what you&#039;re about to authorize PayPal to debit is what you in fact want to pay for. It doesn&#039;t even mention &quot;LunchWorks&quot;, but only the name of the school.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** This problem was still in effect on 2012-03-01.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** This problem was still in effect on 2012-03-01.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Woozle: /* Narrative */ a couple more updates</title>
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		<updated>2012-03-01T21:15:54Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Narrative: &lt;/span&gt; a couple more updates&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;table style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122;&quot; data-mw=&quot;interface&quot;&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;tr class=&quot;diff-title&quot; lang=&quot;en&quot;&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 21:15, 1 March 2012&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l15&quot;&gt;Line 15:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 15:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Question&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: Why do they even need this? It&amp;#039;s not necessary for payment, because they only take PayPal. As I understand it, they would contact the school (not us) if there was some problem with our order, and the food is certainly not being delivered to our address.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Question&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: Why do they even need this? It&amp;#039;s not necessary for payment, because they only take PayPal. As I understand it, they would contact the school (not us) if there was some problem with our order, and the food is certainly not being delivered to our address.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Question&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: What does it mean when it says &amp;quot;Send me email updates&amp;quot;? Sandy interpreted this to mean that if you checked it, LunchWorks would send us an email confirmation after payment -- which would be great, and even something we would expect from this kind of transaction -- but as far as we can tell, we have never received &amp;#039;&amp;#039;any&amp;#039;&amp;#039; email from LunchWorks, although Sandy has always checked this box when placing an order.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Question&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: What does it mean when it says &amp;quot;Send me email updates&amp;quot;? Sandy interpreted this to mean that if you checked it, LunchWorks would send us an email confirmation after payment -- which would be great, and even something we would expect from this kind of transaction -- but as far as we can tell, we have never received &amp;#039;&amp;#039;any&amp;#039;&amp;#039; email from LunchWorks, although Sandy has always checked this box when placing an order.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** This is still a problem as of 2012-03-01. The checkout page still has that same text, and we still do not receive any email from the site whatsoever.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;After making sure our contact information was correct (despite not knowing whether it actually makes any difference), I press the &amp;quot;Submit&amp;quot; button and am taken to the [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 06 - PayPal 1.crop.png|PayPal login screen]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;After making sure our contact information was correct (despite not knowing whether it actually makes any difference), I press the &amp;quot;Submit&amp;quot; button and am taken to the [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 06 - PayPal 1.crop.png|PayPal login screen]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l39&quot;&gt;Line 39:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 40:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think I was able to get back to the main page by clicking on the LunchWorks logo, and that page has a log-in link that worked.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think I was able to get back to the main page by clicking on the LunchWorks logo, and that page has a log-in link that worked.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Note that when you are logged in, there is no &quot;log in&quot; link -- which normally is the way to get back to the ordering page. So if you realize you need to go back in and modify your order, and you haven&#039;t been logged out, it is often easiest just to go back to the original school-specific entry point.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Making sure to be expeditious in my trip through PayPal this time, upon authorizing the payment I was taken instead to [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 10 - after PayPal.crop.png|this screen]] -- finally confirming the amount I was paying, but...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Making sure to be expeditious in my trip through PayPal this time, upon authorizing the payment I was taken instead to [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 10 - after PayPal.crop.png|this screen]] -- finally confirming the amount I was paying, but...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://htyp.org/mw/index.php?title=User:Woozle/LunchWorks&amp;diff=16965&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Woozle: /* Narrative */ a couple of updates</title>
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		<updated>2012-03-01T21:06:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Narrative: &lt;/span&gt; a couple of updates&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;table style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122;&quot; data-mw=&quot;interface&quot;&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;tr class=&quot;diff-title&quot; lang=&quot;en&quot;&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 21:06, 1 March 2012&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l18&quot;&gt;Line 18:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 18:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;After making sure our contact information was correct (despite not knowing whether it actually makes any difference), I press the &amp;quot;Submit&amp;quot; button and am taken to the [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 06 - PayPal 1.crop.png|PayPal login screen]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;After making sure our contact information was correct (despite not knowing whether it actually makes any difference), I press the &amp;quot;Submit&amp;quot; button and am taken to the [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 06 - PayPal 1.crop.png|PayPal login screen]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I should note that this was one place where Sandy was having serious trouble with the site a couple of weeks ago. We complained to the school, who eventually put me in touch with one of the developers -- I described the problem in detail, but got no response. I have no idea if they were able to actually fix something, or if the problem was transient and went away on its own (and may come back the same way).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I should note that this was one place where Sandy was having serious trouble with the site a couple of weeks ago. We complained to the school, who eventually put me in touch with one of the developers -- I described the problem in detail, but got no response. I have no idea if they were able to actually fix something, or if the problem was transient and went away on its own (and may come back the same way). &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;(This problem occurred again on 2012-02-26, which would have caused us to miss the ordering window if the school hadn&#039;t covered us.)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Problem&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: The PayPal screen claims, on the left, that &amp;quot;You&amp;#039;ll be able to see your order details before you pay.&amp;quot; &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;This is incorrect.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Problem&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: The PayPal screen claims, on the left, that &amp;quot;You&amp;#039;ll be able to see your order details before you pay.&amp;quot; &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;This is incorrect.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** This is not a PayPal issue; compare with [[:File:2012-02-08 PayPal screenshot - TheRealms.crop.png|this screenshot]] of an almost identical checkout process from [[TheRealms]], a very small web hosting company (they have, I think, one part-time employee-owner). This latter screenshot not only does not claim that you&amp;#039;ll be able to get more information before paying, but in fact gives a brief rundown of what you&amp;#039;re paying for, including the amount and an invoice number.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** This is not a PayPal issue; compare with [[:File:2012-02-08 PayPal screenshot - TheRealms.crop.png|this screenshot]] of an almost identical checkout process from [[TheRealms]], a very small web hosting company (they have, I think, one part-time employee-owner). This latter screenshot not only does not claim that you&amp;#039;ll be able to get more information before paying, but in fact gives a brief rundown of what you&amp;#039;re paying for, including the amount and an invoice number.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** The LunchWorks checkout &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;doesn&amp;#039;t even tell you how much you&amp;#039;re paying&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, much less break it down or give you a reference number. There is &amp;#039;&amp;#039;absolutely no way&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, at this point, to be sure that what you&amp;#039;re about to authorize PayPal to debit is what you in fact want to pay for. It doesn&amp;#039;t even mention &amp;quot;LunchWorks&amp;quot;, but only the name of the school.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** The LunchWorks checkout &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;doesn&amp;#039;t even tell you how much you&amp;#039;re paying&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, much less break it down or give you a reference number. There is &amp;#039;&amp;#039;absolutely no way&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, at this point, to be sure that what you&amp;#039;re about to authorize PayPal to debit is what you in fact want to pay for. It doesn&amp;#039;t even mention &amp;quot;LunchWorks&amp;quot;, but only the name of the school.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** This problem was still in effect on 2012-03-01.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is another point where Sandy has repeatedly gotten stuck, thinking that something might have gone wrong because there was no information about what she was paying for or how much she was paying -- not even on the [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 07 - PayPal 2.crop.png|next PayPal screen]], which is your last chance to decide whether or not to authorize the payment.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is another point where Sandy has repeatedly gotten stuck, thinking that something might have gone wrong because there was no information about what she was paying for or how much she was paying -- not even on the [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 07 - PayPal 2.crop.png|next PayPal screen]], which is your last chance to decide whether or not to authorize the payment.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://htyp.org/mw/index.php?title=User:Woozle/LunchWorks&amp;diff=16942&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Woozle: &quot;privacy and security&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2012-02-08T19:34:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;privacy and security&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;table style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122;&quot; data-mw=&quot;interface&quot;&gt;
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				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 19:34, 8 February 2012&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l31&quot;&gt;Line 31:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 31:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** Let&amp;#039;s take a closer look at this &amp;quot;inactivity&amp;quot;. The time-stamp on the [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 05 - contact info.crop.png|last LunchWorks screenshot before entering PayPal]](contact info) was 09:54:29. The time-stamp on the &amp;quot;you have been logged out&amp;quot; screenshot is 09:57:36. Wait, let&amp;#039;s be pessimistic; maybe I hung out out a long time on the &amp;quot;contact info&amp;quot; page before taking the shot; okay, the stamp on the screenshot of [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 04 - payment.crop.png|the page before that]] (payment summary) is 09:53:33. Total elapsed time (most pessimistic assumptions) between accesses of the LW site: (09:57:36-09:53:33) = 4 minutes and 3 seconds... and for this I get timed out? Sometimes PayPal takes that long to load.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** Let&amp;#039;s take a closer look at this &amp;quot;inactivity&amp;quot;. The time-stamp on the [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 05 - contact info.crop.png|last LunchWorks screenshot before entering PayPal]](contact info) was 09:54:29. The time-stamp on the &amp;quot;you have been logged out&amp;quot; screenshot is 09:57:36. Wait, let&amp;#039;s be pessimistic; maybe I hung out out a long time on the &amp;quot;contact info&amp;quot; page before taking the shot; okay, the stamp on the screenshot of [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 04 - payment.crop.png|the page before that]] (payment summary) is 09:53:33. Total elapsed time (most pessimistic assumptions) between accesses of the LW site: (09:57:36-09:53:33) = 4 minutes and 3 seconds... and for this I get timed out? Sometimes PayPal takes that long to load.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** There was also no indication of whether the charge had gone through or not. I had to log back into PayPal via their usual front door, load my recent transactions, and make sure that there wasn&amp;#039;t already a charge matching the one I thought I had authorized (but, of course, without being sure whether PayPal was given the correct amount or not, since &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;I was never shown a total&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; while on PayPal&amp;#039;s site).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** There was also no indication of whether the charge had gone through or not. I had to log back into PayPal via their usual front door, load my recent transactions, and make sure that there wasn&amp;#039;t already a charge matching the one I thought I had authorized (but, of course, without being sure whether PayPal was given the correct amount or not, since &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;I was never shown a total&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; while on PayPal&amp;#039;s site).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;** And... &quot;privacy and security&quot;? &#039;&#039;Really?&#039;&#039; When the only personal information we enter is parent&#039;s name, child&#039;s name, an email address which LW apparently never uses, and our home address which shouldn&#039;t even be necessary? Even &#039;&#039;banking&#039;&#039; sites, where someone could actually take your money if they gained access to it, give a longer time-out than 4 minutes. How about an hour? Or even 20 minutes?&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Having verified that in fact, no, the charge had not gone through, I clicked the &amp;quot;click here&amp;quot; link within the text saying &amp;quot;Please click here to log back in&amp;quot; -- and was taken to [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 09 - login page not found.crop.png|this page]], telling me that I had asked for a nonexistent page.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Having verified that in fact, no, the charge had not gone through, I clicked the &amp;quot;click here&amp;quot; link within the text saying &amp;quot;Please click here to log back in&amp;quot; -- and was taken to [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 09 - login page not found.crop.png|this page]], telling me that I had asked for a nonexistent page.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://htyp.org/mw/index.php?title=User:Woozle/LunchWorks&amp;diff=16941&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Woozle: changed secondary indents to bullets</title>
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		<updated>2012-02-08T19:31:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;changed secondary indents to bullets&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;tr class=&quot;diff-title&quot; lang=&quot;en&quot;&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 19:31, 8 February 2012&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l21&quot;&gt;Line 21:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 21:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Problem&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: The PayPal screen claims, on the left, that &amp;quot;You&amp;#039;ll be able to see your order details before you pay.&amp;quot; &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;This is incorrect.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Problem&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: The PayPal screen claims, on the left, that &amp;quot;You&amp;#039;ll be able to see your order details before you pay.&amp;quot; &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;This is incorrect.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: &lt;/del&gt;This is not a PayPal issue; compare with [[:File:2012-02-08 PayPal screenshot - TheRealms.crop.png|this screenshot]] of an almost identical checkout process from [[TheRealms]], a very small web hosting company (they have, I think, one part-time employee-owner). This latter screenshot not only does not claim that you&#039;ll be able to get more information before paying, but in fact gives a brief rundown of what you&#039;re paying for, including the amount and an invoice number.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* &lt;/ins&gt;This is not a PayPal issue; compare with [[:File:2012-02-08 PayPal screenshot - TheRealms.crop.png|this screenshot]] of an almost identical checkout process from [[TheRealms]], a very small web hosting company (they have, I think, one part-time employee-owner). This latter screenshot not only does not claim that you&#039;ll be able to get more information before paying, but in fact gives a brief rundown of what you&#039;re paying for, including the amount and an invoice number.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: &lt;/del&gt;The LunchWorks checkout &#039;&#039;&#039;doesn&#039;t even tell you how much you&#039;re paying&#039;&#039;&#039;, much less break it down or give you a reference number. There is &#039;&#039;absolutely no way&#039;&#039;, at this point, to be sure that what you&#039;re about to authorize PayPal to debit is what you in fact want to pay for. It doesn&#039;t even mention &quot;LunchWorks&quot;, but only the name of the school.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* &lt;/ins&gt;The LunchWorks checkout &#039;&#039;&#039;doesn&#039;t even tell you how much you&#039;re paying&#039;&#039;&#039;, much less break it down or give you a reference number. There is &#039;&#039;absolutely no way&#039;&#039;, at this point, to be sure that what you&#039;re about to authorize PayPal to debit is what you in fact want to pay for. It doesn&#039;t even mention &quot;LunchWorks&quot;, but only the name of the school.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is another point where Sandy has repeatedly gotten stuck, thinking that something might have gone wrong because there was no information about what she was paying for or how much she was paying -- not even on the [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 07 - PayPal 2.crop.png|next PayPal screen]], which is your last chance to decide whether or not to authorize the payment.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is another point where Sandy has repeatedly gotten stuck, thinking that something might have gone wrong because there was no information about what she was paying for or how much she was paying -- not even on the [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 07 - PayPal 2.crop.png|next PayPal screen]], which is your last chance to decide whether or not to authorize the payment.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l29&quot;&gt;Line 29:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 29:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Problems&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;:  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Problems&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;:  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: &lt;/del&gt;Let&#039;s take a closer look at this &quot;inactivity&quot;. The time-stamp on the [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 05 - contact info.crop.png|last LunchWorks screenshot before entering PayPal]](contact info) was 09:54:29. The time-stamp on the &quot;you have been logged out&quot; screenshot is 09:57:36. Wait, let&#039;s be pessimistic; maybe I hung out out a long time on the &quot;contact info&quot; page before taking the shot; okay, the stamp on the screenshot of [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 04 - payment.crop.png|the page before that]] (payment summary) is 09:53:33. Total elapsed time (most pessimistic assumptions) between accesses of the LW site: (09:57:36-09:53:33) = 4 minutes and 3 seconds... and for this I get timed out? Sometimes PayPal takes that long to load.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* &lt;/ins&gt;Let&#039;s take a closer look at this &quot;inactivity&quot;. The time-stamp on the [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 05 - contact info.crop.png|last LunchWorks screenshot before entering PayPal]](contact info) was 09:54:29. The time-stamp on the &quot;you have been logged out&quot; screenshot is 09:57:36. Wait, let&#039;s be pessimistic; maybe I hung out out a long time on the &quot;contact info&quot; page before taking the shot; okay, the stamp on the screenshot of [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 04 - payment.crop.png|the page before that]] (payment summary) is 09:53:33. Total elapsed time (most pessimistic assumptions) between accesses of the LW site: (09:57:36-09:53:33) = 4 minutes and 3 seconds... and for this I get timed out? Sometimes PayPal takes that long to load.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: &lt;/del&gt;There was also no indication of whether the charge had gone through or not. I had to log back into PayPal via their usual front door, load my recent transactions, and make sure that there wasn&#039;t already a charge matching the one I thought I had authorized (but, of course, without being sure whether PayPal was given the correct amount or not, since &#039;&#039;&#039;I was never shown a total&#039;&#039;&#039; while on PayPal&#039;s site).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* &lt;/ins&gt;There was also no indication of whether the charge had gone through or not. I had to log back into PayPal via their usual front door, load my recent transactions, and make sure that there wasn&#039;t already a charge matching the one I thought I had authorized (but, of course, without being sure whether PayPal was given the correct amount or not, since &#039;&#039;&#039;I was never shown a total&#039;&#039;&#039; while on PayPal&#039;s site).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Having verified that in fact, no, the charge had not gone through, I clicked the &amp;quot;click here&amp;quot; link within the text saying &amp;quot;Please click here to log back in&amp;quot; -- and was taken to [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 09 - login page not found.crop.png|this page]], telling me that I had asked for a nonexistent page.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Having verified that in fact, no, the charge had not gone through, I clicked the &amp;quot;click here&amp;quot; link within the text saying &amp;quot;Please click here to log back in&amp;quot; -- and was taken to [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 09 - login page not found.crop.png|this page]], telling me that I had asked for a nonexistent page.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://htyp.org/mw/index.php?title=User:Woozle/LunchWorks&amp;diff=16939&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Woozle: closed parenthesis</title>
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		<updated>2012-02-08T19:21:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;closed parenthesis&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;table style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122;&quot; data-mw=&quot;interface&quot;&gt;
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				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;tr class=&quot;diff-title&quot; lang=&quot;en&quot;&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 19:21, 8 February 2012&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l47&quot;&gt;Line 47:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 47:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;On further exploration, I found [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 12 - family statement.crop.png|this page]], which -- &amp;#039;&amp;#039;finally!&amp;#039;&amp;#039; -- shows each payment made and for what meals on what days. (It initially just shows each payment date, but these line-items &amp;quot;open up&amp;quot; when you click on them.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;On further exploration, I found [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 12 - family statement.crop.png|this page]], which -- &amp;#039;&amp;#039;finally!&amp;#039;&amp;#039; -- shows each payment made and for what meals on what days. (It initially just shows each payment date, but these line-items &amp;quot;open up&amp;quot; when you click on them.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One final mystery: why does every single page have an inline frame (sometimes multiple nested inline frames, e.g. [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 03 - shopping cart.crop.png|the shopping cart]] that contains the actual information? This makes no sense, and comes across as bad web design.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One final mystery: why does every single page have an inline frame (sometimes multiple nested inline frames, e.g. [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 03 - shopping cart.crop.png|the shopping cart]]&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;) &lt;/ins&gt;that contains the actual information? This makes no sense, and comes across as bad web design.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Positive Points==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Positive Points==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://htyp.org/mw/index.php?title=User:Woozle/LunchWorks&amp;diff=16937&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Woozle: saving work</title>
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		<updated>2012-02-08T19:08:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;saving work&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[LunchWorks]] (LW), while providing a very useful service that does work most of the time, has some unnecessary annoyances that make it frustrating to use.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I captured a series of screenshots while completing an order that Sandy had already added to the cart (but not completed, due to problems I&amp;#039;ll mention when I get there).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The complete series of screenshots is [[/2012-02-08|here]], but here&amp;#039;s the story -- I&amp;#039;ll mark any substantial objections or questions in &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;bold&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
==Narrative==&lt;br /&gt;
After [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 01 - login.crop.png|logging in]], the [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 02 - post-login.crop.png|next page]] made it simple enough to find the previously-loaded [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 03 - shopping cart.crop.png|shopping cart]] to confirm that everything was correct.&lt;br /&gt;
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It feels slightly wrong to press a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;link&amp;#039;&amp;#039; instead of a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;button&amp;#039;&amp;#039; to check out, but since the cart data is already stored and is not editable at that point, it makes sense. The &amp;quot;check out&amp;quot; link takes me to the [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 04 - payment.crop.png|payment page]], which shows a very brief accounting of what is being paid for.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Question&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: Why is &amp;quot;credit card&amp;quot; given as an option (and, indeed, the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;only&amp;#039;&amp;#039; option), when we have to pay through PayPal regardless? This is misleading and confusing.&lt;br /&gt;
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Pressing the &amp;quot;Continue &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;quot; button takes me to the [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 05 - contact info.crop.png|&amp;quot;Process Payment&amp;quot; page]], where our contact information is already filled in.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Question&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: Why do they even need this? It&amp;#039;s not necessary for payment, because they only take PayPal. As I understand it, they would contact the school (not us) if there was some problem with our order, and the food is certainly not being delivered to our address.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Question&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: What does it mean when it says &amp;quot;Send me email updates&amp;quot;? Sandy interpreted this to mean that if you checked it, LunchWorks would send us an email confirmation after payment -- which would be great, and even something we would expect from this kind of transaction -- but as far as we can tell, we have never received &amp;#039;&amp;#039;any&amp;#039;&amp;#039; email from LunchWorks, although Sandy has always checked this box when placing an order.&lt;br /&gt;
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After making sure our contact information was correct (despite not knowing whether it actually makes any difference), I press the &amp;quot;Submit&amp;quot; button and am taken to the [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 06 - PayPal 1.crop.png|PayPal login screen]].&lt;br /&gt;
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I should note that this was one place where Sandy was having serious trouble with the site a couple of weeks ago. We complained to the school, who eventually put me in touch with one of the developers -- I described the problem in detail, but got no response. I have no idea if they were able to actually fix something, or if the problem was transient and went away on its own (and may come back the same way).&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Problem&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: The PayPal screen claims, on the left, that &amp;quot;You&amp;#039;ll be able to see your order details before you pay.&amp;quot; &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;This is incorrect.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*: This is not a PayPal issue; compare with [[:File:2012-02-08 PayPal screenshot - TheRealms.crop.png|this screenshot]] of an almost identical checkout process from [[TheRealms]], a very small web hosting company (they have, I think, one part-time employee-owner). This latter screenshot not only does not claim that you&amp;#039;ll be able to get more information before paying, but in fact gives a brief rundown of what you&amp;#039;re paying for, including the amount and an invoice number.&lt;br /&gt;
*: The LunchWorks checkout &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;doesn&amp;#039;t even tell you how much you&amp;#039;re paying&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, much less break it down or give you a reference number. There is &amp;#039;&amp;#039;absolutely no way&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, at this point, to be sure that what you&amp;#039;re about to authorize PayPal to debit is what you in fact want to pay for. It doesn&amp;#039;t even mention &amp;quot;LunchWorks&amp;quot;, but only the name of the school.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is another point where Sandy has repeatedly gotten stuck, thinking that something might have gone wrong because there was no information about what she was paying for or how much she was paying -- not even on the [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 07 - PayPal 2.crop.png|next PayPal screen]], which is your last chance to decide whether or not to authorize the payment.&lt;br /&gt;
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I went ahead and authorized the payment, just to see what happened so I could document it fully. However, I had apparently spent too much time taking screenshots, and was taken to [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 08 - inactivity logout.crop.png|this screen]] at LunchWorks, which told me that &amp;quot;For privacy and security reasons, you have been logged out due to inactivity.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Problems&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: &lt;br /&gt;
*: Let&amp;#039;s take a closer look at this &amp;quot;inactivity&amp;quot;. The time-stamp on the [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 05 - contact info.crop.png|last LunchWorks screenshot before entering PayPal]](contact info) was 09:54:29. The time-stamp on the &amp;quot;you have been logged out&amp;quot; screenshot is 09:57:36. Wait, let&amp;#039;s be pessimistic; maybe I hung out out a long time on the &amp;quot;contact info&amp;quot; page before taking the shot; okay, the stamp on the screenshot of [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 04 - payment.crop.png|the page before that]] (payment summary) is 09:53:33. Total elapsed time (most pessimistic assumptions) between accesses of the LW site: (09:57:36-09:53:33) = 4 minutes and 3 seconds... and for this I get timed out? Sometimes PayPal takes that long to load.&lt;br /&gt;
*: There was also no indication of whether the charge had gone through or not. I had to log back into PayPal via their usual front door, load my recent transactions, and make sure that there wasn&amp;#039;t already a charge matching the one I thought I had authorized (but, of course, without being sure whether PayPal was given the correct amount or not, since &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;I was never shown a total&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; while on PayPal&amp;#039;s site).&lt;br /&gt;
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Having verified that in fact, no, the charge had not gone through, I clicked the &amp;quot;click here&amp;quot; link within the text saying &amp;quot;Please click here to log back in&amp;quot; -- and was taken to [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 09 - login page not found.crop.png|this page]], telling me that I had asked for a nonexistent page.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Problem&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: check your internal links, guys.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think I was able to get back to the main page by clicking on the LunchWorks logo, and that page has a log-in link that worked.&lt;br /&gt;
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Making sure to be expeditious in my trip through PayPal this time, upon authorizing the payment I was taken instead to [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 10 - after PayPal.crop.png|this screen]] -- finally confirming the amount I was paying, but...&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Problem&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: ...only &amp;#039;&amp;#039;after&amp;#039;&amp;#039; I had authorized the payment, and...&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Problem&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: ...still not giving me any kind of listing of what I&amp;#039;m paying for.&lt;br /&gt;
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I did a little exploration after that, and found [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 11 - view confirmed orders.crop.png|this page]], which shows everything I had ordered for this month -- including one lunch already received, i.e. in the past, but not showing the meals in March that had been paid for and not indicating which lunches were attached to which payments. So that won&amp;#039;t do for a receipt, though it&amp;#039;s useful to have.&lt;br /&gt;
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On further exploration, I found [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 12 - family statement.crop.png|this page]], which -- &amp;#039;&amp;#039;finally!&amp;#039;&amp;#039; -- shows each payment made and for what meals on what days. (It initially just shows each payment date, but these line-items &amp;quot;open up&amp;quot; when you click on them.)&lt;br /&gt;
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One final mystery: why does every single page have an inline frame (sometimes multiple nested inline frames, e.g. [[:File:2012-02-08 LunchWorks screenshot 03 - shopping cart.crop.png|the shopping cart]] that contains the actual information? This makes no sense, and comes across as bad web design.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Positive Points==&lt;br /&gt;
* Contents of cart were saved properly and still available a day or two later&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Family Statement&amp;quot; page has all pertinent information organized in a readable way&lt;br /&gt;
* Site seems reasonably responsive, normally&lt;br /&gt;
* Logo-header is a link back to home page (some sites forget to do this)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
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