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		<id>https://htyp.org/mw/index.php?title=User:Woozle/2016/02/15/Postfix_bounce-spam&amp;diff=21648&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Woozle: resolved?</title>
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		<updated>2016-02-16T14:16:47Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;resolved?&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 14:16, 16 February 2016&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l16&quot;&gt;Line 16:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Both of those .org domains are configured with an {{l/wp|Sender Policy Framework|SPF}} host record to prevent messages with those domains being sent from anywhere except cloud2.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Both of those .org domains are configured with an {{l/wp|Sender Policy Framework|SPF}} host record to prevent messages with those domains being sent from anywhere except cloud2.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Yes, we could probably eliminate most or all of the spam by disabling catch-all (i.e. only accepting email to certain addresses) -- but if the server is being abused to send spam, turning off catch-all wouldn&amp;#039;t necessarily prevent that, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;and&amp;#039;&amp;#039; the abuse would become invisible to us.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Yes, we could probably eliminate most or all of the spam by disabling catch-all (i.e. only accepting email to certain addresses) -- but if the server is being abused to send spam, turning off catch-all wouldn&amp;#039;t necessarily prevent that, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;and&amp;#039;&amp;#039; the abuse would become invisible to us.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;==Update - Resolved?==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;More of the &quot;ownedbycats&quot; spam started arriving early this morning (2/16) and was still coming in by the time I got up, so I took another look at mail.log and found [[/mail.log 1]] -- which looks pretty clearly like someone logging in as user &quot;harena&quot;, and using that to authorize sending messages. I changed harena&#039;s password, and the bounces stopped right away.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://htyp.org/mw/index.php?title=User:Woozle/2016/02/15/Postfix_bounce-spam&amp;diff=21638&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Woozle: tcpdump</title>
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		<updated>2016-02-15T16:37:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;tcpdump&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 16:37, 15 February 2016&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l6&quot;&gt;Line 6:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# [[/2016/02/14/21:32:58]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# [[/2016/02/14/21:32:58]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# [[/2016/02/14/21:33:07]] (received right after #2; part of a sequence of 4 addressed to coinstar6116)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# [[/2016/02/14/21:33:07]] (received right after #2; part of a sequence of 4 addressed to coinstar6116)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Possible evidence:&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* [[/tcpdump 1]]&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Some points of note:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Some points of note:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://htyp.org/mw/index.php?title=User:Woozle/2016/02/15/Postfix_bounce-spam&amp;diff=21634&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Woozle: note about SPF</title>
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		<updated>2016-02-15T13:29:00Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;note about SPF&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 13:29, 15 February 2016&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* ownedbycats.org is one of the domains hosted on that server. (A complete list, from memory: hypertwins.com/net/org, ownedbycats.com/net/org, vbz.net)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* ownedbycats.org is one of the domains hosted on that server. (A complete list, from memory: hypertwins.com/net/org, ownedbycats.com/net/org, vbz.net)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* ownedbycats.org and hypertwins.org are both set for catch-all (i.e. will accept email to [any address]@[domain]).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* ownedbycats.org and hypertwins.org are both set for catch-all (i.e. will accept email to [any address]@[domain]).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* Both of those .org domains are configured with an {{l/wp|Sender Policy Framework|SPF}} host record to prevent messages with those domains being sent from anywhere except cloud2.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Yes, we could probably eliminate most or all of the spam by disabling catch-all (i.e. only accepting email to certain addresses) -- but if the server is being abused to send spam, turning off catch-all wouldn&amp;#039;t necessarily prevent that, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;and&amp;#039;&amp;#039; the abuse would become invisible to us.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Yes, we could probably eliminate most or all of the spam by disabling catch-all (i.e. only accepting email to certain addresses) -- but if the server is being abused to send spam, turning off catch-all wouldn&amp;#039;t necessarily prevent that, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;and&amp;#039;&amp;#039; the abuse would become invisible to us.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://htyp.org/mw/index.php?title=User:Woozle/2016/02/15/Postfix_bounce-spam&amp;diff=21633&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Woozle: Created page with &quot;Just a small sampling... Explanation / discussion: [https://plus.google.com/u/0/102282887764745350285/post...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2016-02-15T13:25:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/File:2016-02-15_08-13-46_Thunderbird_with_bounce-spams.png&quot; title=&quot;File:2016-02-15 08-13-46 Thunderbird with bounce-spams.png&quot;&gt;thumb|Just a small sampling...&lt;/a&gt; Explanation / discussion: [https://plus.google.com/u/0/102282887764745350285/post...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[File:2016-02-15 08-13-46 Thunderbird with bounce-spams.png|thumb|Just a small sampling...]]&lt;br /&gt;
Explanation / discussion: [https://plus.google.com/u/0/102282887764745350285/posts/5akUnjVdsRV Google+]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sample emails:&lt;br /&gt;
# [[/2016/02/14/19:59:08]]&lt;br /&gt;
# [[/2016/02/14/21:32:58]]&lt;br /&gt;
# [[/2016/02/14/21:33:07]] (received right after #2; part of a sequence of 4 addressed to coinstar6116)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some points of note:&lt;br /&gt;
* Our mail server is cloud2.hypertwins.net.&lt;br /&gt;
* ownedbycats.org is one of the domains hosted on that server. (A complete list, from memory: hypertwins.com/net/org, ownedbycats.com/net/org, vbz.net)&lt;br /&gt;
* ownedbycats.org and hypertwins.org are both set for catch-all (i.e. will accept email to [any address]@[domain]).&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes, we could probably eliminate most or all of the spam by disabling catch-all (i.e. only accepting email to certain addresses) -- but if the server is being abused to send spam, turning off catch-all wouldn&amp;#039;t necessarily prevent that, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;and&amp;#039;&amp;#039; the abuse would become invisible to us.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
	</entry>
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