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		<title>Hkhenson at 19:22, 15 October 2008</title>
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 19:22, 15 October 2008&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;==Background numbers==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Sunlight in space is around 1.3 kW/m^2.  Photovoltaic cells of 15% efficiency would allow collecting 200W/m^2. A km^2 would produced 0.2 GW, 5km^2 would generate a GW and 25km^2 would generate 5 GW.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Sunlight in space is around 1.3 kW/m^2.  Photovoltaic cells of 15% efficiency would allow collecting 200W/m^2. A km^2 would produced 0.2 GW, 5km^2 would generate a GW and 25km^2 would generate 5 GW.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Power on the ground is around .8 x .8 x .8 for the transmitter, transmission and rectenna loses.  That&amp;#039;s close enough to 0.5, so 5GWe would take about 50 km^2 in space or 2 5x5 km surfaces each delivering 5GW to the transmitter.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Power on the ground is around .8 x .8 x .8 for the transmitter, transmission and rectenna loses.  That&amp;#039;s close enough to 0.5, so 5GWe would take about 50 km^2 in space or 2 5x5 km surfaces each delivering 5GW to the transmitter.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;==Power collection analysis==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;5,000,000,000 watts is 10,000 volts times 500,000 amps or perhaps if someone designs very high voltage klystrons, 100,000 volts and 50,000 amps.  Using 10,000 volts, the edge of a 5 km square surface delivers 500,000 amps over 5 km, 100,000 amps per km or 100 amps per meter.  If we make the current carrying conductor a thin metal foil 0.1 m wide and let it radiate at roughly room temperature, then we can loose 25 watts per meter of length.  (A black surface radiates 250 watts/m^2.  I am only counting on one side radiating since the side toward the bulk of the power sat would be at near room temp.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;5,000,000,000 watts is 10,000 volts times 500,000 amps or perhaps if someone designs very high voltage klystrons, 100,000 volts and 50,000 amps.  Using 10,000 volts, the edge of a 5 km square surface delivers 500,000 amps over 5 km, 100,000 amps per km or 100 amps per meter.  If we make the current carrying conductor a thin metal foil 0.1 m wide and let it radiate at roughly room temperature, then we can loose 25 watts per meter of length.  (A black surface radiates 250 watts/m^2.  I am only counting on one side radiating since the side toward the bulk of the power sat would be at near room temp.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;W=I^2R so 25=100^2 R, R = 0.0025 Ω/meter.  Aluminum is 26.50 nΩ·m  So a nanometer thick layer of Al a meter square would measure about 25 Ω of resistance, one 1/10th meter wide would be 250 Ω.  250/.0025, 100/.001 or 100,000 nm. 10^5 x 10^-9 is 10-4 m or 0.1 mm.  In area this would be 500 m x 5 k (the two collectors taper, but together they make a rectangle).  This is 1/10 of the area of the power sat.  Since the dissipation is 250 W/m^2 and the power sat collection surface is 200 W/m^2, 12.5% would be lost to resistive heating in this design.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;W=I^2R so 25=100^2 R, R = 0.0025 Ω/meter.  Aluminum is 26.50 nΩ·m  So a nanometer thick layer of Al a meter square would measure about 25 Ω of resistance, one 1/10th meter wide would be 250 Ω.  250/.0025, 100/.001 or 100,000 nm. 10^5 x 10^-9 is 10-4 m or 0.1 mm.  In area this would be 500 m x 5 k (the two collectors taper, but together they make a rectangle).  This is 1/10 of the area of the power sat.  Since the dissipation is 250 W/m^2 and the power sat collection surface is 200 W/m^2, 12.5% would be lost to resistive heating in this design&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;.  This is excessive&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The mass would be 500 m x 5000 m x 10^-4 m, 250 cubic meters x 2.7 t/m^3, 675 tons per side or 1350 t.  In the context of a 20-40,000 t power sat this is not excessive.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The mass would be 500 m x 5000 m x 10^-4 m, 250 cubic meters x 2.7 t/m^3, 675 tons per side or 1350 t.  In the context of a 20-40,000 t power sat this is not excessive.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;==Improvements==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Going to 100,000 volts and ten amps per meter would cut the power loss by a factor of 100.  Or we could cut the conductor mass by ten and still get a 10 fold reduction in loses.  Question to be asked:  Is there any reason we could not wire ten 10kV Klystrons in series?&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Hkhenson at 05:45, 15 October 2008</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;5,000,000,000 watts is 10,000 volts times 500,000 amps or perhaps if someone designs very high voltage klystrons, 100,000 volts and 50,000 amps.  Using 10,000 volts, the edge of a 5 km square surface delivers 500,000 amps over 5 km, 100,000 amps per km or 100 amps per meter.  If we make the current carrying conductor a thin metal foil 0.1 m wide and let it radiate at roughly room temperature, then we can loose 25 watts per meter of length.  (A black surface radiates 250 watts/m^2.  I am only counting on one side radiating since the side toward the bulk of the power sat would be at near room temp.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;5,000,000,000 watts is 10,000 volts times 500,000 amps or perhaps if someone designs very high voltage klystrons, 100,000 volts and 50,000 amps.  Using 10,000 volts, the edge of a 5 km square surface delivers 500,000 amps over 5 km, 100,000 amps per km or 100 amps per meter.  If we make the current carrying conductor a thin metal foil 0.1 m wide and let it radiate at roughly room temperature, then we can loose 25 watts per meter of length.  (A black surface radiates 250 watts/m^2.  I am only counting on one side radiating since the side toward the bulk of the power sat would be at near room temp.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;W=I^2R so 25=100^2 R, R = 0.0025 Ω/meter.  Aluminum is 26.50 nΩ·m  So a nanometer thick layer of Al a meter square would measure about 25 Ω of resistance, one 1/10th meter wide would be 250 Ω.  250/.0025, 100/.001 or 100,000 nm. 10^5 x 10^-9 is 10-4 m or 0.1 mm.  In area this would be 500 m x 5 k (the two collectors taper, but together they make a rectangle).  This is 1/10 of the area of the power sat.  Since the dissipation is&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;W=I^2R so 25=100^2 R, R = 0.0025 Ω/meter.  Aluminum is 26.50 nΩ·m  So a nanometer thick layer of Al a meter square would measure about 25 Ω of resistance, one 1/10th meter wide would be 250 Ω.  250/.0025, 100/.001 or 100,000 nm. 10^5 x 10^-9 is 10-4 m or 0.1 mm.  In area this would be 500 m x 5 k (the two collectors taper, but together they make a rectangle).  This is 1/10 of the area of the power sat.  Since the dissipation is &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;250 W/m^2 and the power sat collection surface is 200 W/m^2, 12.5% would be lost to resistive heating in this design.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;The mass would be 500 m x 5000 m x 10^-4 m, 250 cubic meters x 2.7 t/m^3, 675 tons per side or 1350 t.  In the context of a 20-40,000 t power sat this is not excessive.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>67.170.206.231 at 04:21, 15 October 2008</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-15T04:21:01Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;5,000,000,000 watts is 10,000 volts times 500,000 amps or perhaps if someone designs very high voltage klystrons, 100,000 volts and 50,000 amps.  Using 10,000 volts, the edge of a 5 km square surface delivers 500,000 amps over 5 km, 100,000 amps per km or 100 amps per meter.  If we make the current carrying conductor a thin metal foil 0.1 m wide and let it radiate at roughly room temperature, then we can loose 25 watts per meter of length.  (A black surface radiates 250 watts/m^2.  I am only counting on one side radiating since the side toward the bulk of the power sat would be at near room temp.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;5,000,000,000 watts is 10,000 volts times 500,000 amps or perhaps if someone designs very high voltage klystrons, 100,000 volts and 50,000 amps.  Using 10,000 volts, the edge of a 5 km square surface delivers 500,000 amps over 5 km, 100,000 amps per km or 100 amps per meter.  If we make the current carrying conductor a thin metal foil 0.1 m wide and let it radiate at roughly room temperature, then we can loose 25 watts per meter of length.  (A black surface radiates 250 watts/m^2.  I am only counting on one side radiating since the side toward the bulk of the power sat would be at near room temp.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;W=I^2R so 25=100^2 R, R = 0.0025 &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;ohm&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;W=I^2R so 25=100^2 R, R = 0.0025 &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Ω/meter.  Aluminum is 26.50 nΩ·m  So a nanometer thick layer of Al a meter square would measure about 25 Ω of resistance, one 1/10th meter wide would be 250 Ω.  250/.0025, 100/.001 or 100,000 nm. 10^5 x 10^-9 is 10-4 m or 0.1 mm.  In area this would be 500 m x 5 k (the two collectors taper, but together they make a rectangle).  This is 1/10 of the area of the power sat.  Since the dissipation is&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>67.170.206.231: New page: Sunlight in space is around 1.3 kW/m^2.  Photovoltaic cells of 15% efficiency would allow collecting 200W/m^2. A km^2 would produced 0.2 GW, 5km^2 would generate a GW and 25km^2 would gene...</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-14T23:59:39Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: Sunlight in space is around 1.3 kW/m^2.  Photovoltaic cells of 15% efficiency would allow collecting 200W/m^2. A km^2 would produced 0.2 GW, 5km^2 would generate a GW and 25km^2 would gene...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Sunlight in space is around 1.3 kW/m^2.  Photovoltaic cells of 15% efficiency would allow collecting 200W/m^2. A km^2 would produced 0.2 GW, 5km^2 would generate a GW and 25km^2 would generate 5 GW.&lt;br /&gt;
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Power on the ground is around .8 x .8 x .8 for the transmitter, transmission and rectenna loses.  That&amp;#039;s close enough to 0.5, so 5GWe would take about 50 km^2 in space or 2 5x5 km surfaces each delivering 5GW to the transmitter.&lt;br /&gt;
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5,000,000,000 watts is 10,000 volts times 500,000 amps or perhaps if someone designs very high voltage klystrons, 100,000 volts and 50,000 amps.  Using 10,000 volts, the edge of a 5 km square surface delivers 500,000 amps over 5 km, 100,000 amps per km or 100 amps per meter.  If we make the current carrying conductor a thin metal foil 0.1 m wide and let it radiate at roughly room temperature, then we can loose 25 watts per meter of length.  (A black surface radiates 250 watts/m^2.  I am only counting on one side radiating since the side toward the bulk of the power sat would be at near room temp.)&lt;br /&gt;
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W=I^2R so 25=100^2 R, R = 0.0025 ohm&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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