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		<title>Woozle: known bugs</title>
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		<updated>2015-06-04T21:35:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;known bugs&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 21:35, 4 June 2015&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Flaws==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Flaws==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Current===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Current===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* [[/bugs]]&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* (Major) Apparently there is no way to instantiate [[/virtual class]]es; a descendant class must be written using C++. This means that you cannot effectively use any component (or other class), such as ListView, which returns data using virtual classes, without writing C++ code. &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Update&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: there is an INHERITS keyword which makes it sound like you actually can write a child class in Gambas; see [[inheritance (Gambas)|inheritance]] for ongoing documentation. (This may have been fixed in v3; need to check.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* (Major) Apparently there is no way to instantiate [[/virtual class]]es; a descendant class must be written using C++. This means that you cannot effectively use any component (or other class), such as ListView, which returns data using virtual classes, without writing C++ code. &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Update&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: there is an INHERITS keyword which makes it sound like you actually can write a child class in Gambas; see [[inheritance (Gambas)|inheritance]] for ongoing documentation. (This may have been fixed in v3; need to check.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* (Major but livable) Hovering over variables at runtime does not display their current value, as in [[Visual Basic|VB]], nor does there seem to be any other way of inspecting values at runtime other than inserting debug code to display values.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* (Major but livable) Hovering over variables at runtime does not display their current value, as in [[Visual Basic|VB]], nor does there seem to be any other way of inspecting values at runtime other than inserting debug code to display values.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
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		<title>Woozle: extracted from main Gambas page</title>
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		<updated>2013-07-01T16:07:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;extracted from main Gambas page&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Flaws==&lt;br /&gt;
===Current===&lt;br /&gt;
* (Major) Apparently there is no way to instantiate [[/virtual class]]es; a descendant class must be written using C++. This means that you cannot effectively use any component (or other class), such as ListView, which returns data using virtual classes, without writing C++ code. &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Update&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: there is an INHERITS keyword which makes it sound like you actually can write a child class in Gambas; see [[inheritance (Gambas)|inheritance]] for ongoing documentation. (This may have been fixed in v3; need to check.)&lt;br /&gt;
* (Major but livable) Hovering over variables at runtime does not display their current value, as in [[Visual Basic|VB]], nor does there seem to be any other way of inspecting values at runtime other than inserting debug code to display values.&lt;br /&gt;
* (Major but livable) Help is not context-sensitive&lt;br /&gt;
* (Annoying; bad for writing good code) Constants cannot be defined using other constants (e.g. A = &amp;quot;something&amp;quot; &amp;amp; B, where A and B are both constants)&lt;br /&gt;
* (Puzzling) The error &amp;quot;[http://gambasdoc.org/help/error/neparam Not enough arguments (#4)]&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;
** can appear at the point where a call to a subroutine has a problem &amp;#039;&amp;#039;inside the called subroutine&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, rather than at the point highlighted. (Use &amp;quot;RETURN&amp;quot; within the called subroutine to isolate the problem line, as Gambas will not let you step inside a subroutine when this problem happens.)&lt;br /&gt;
** can be a sign of a property being called as a function&lt;br /&gt;
* (Minor) SHIFT-TAB does not reliably unindent (seems to work better when multiple rows are highlighted)&lt;br /&gt;
* (Minor) Although the syntax for accessing field data is nominally similar to VB&amp;#039;s syntax, a variant which works under VB does not work in Gambas:&lt;br /&gt;
{|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| valign=top |&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;works in VB&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;with&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; objData&lt;br /&gt;
    intID = !ID&lt;br /&gt;
    strName = !Name&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;end with&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
| valign=top |&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;required form in Gambas&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 intID = objData!ID&lt;br /&gt;
 strName = objData!Name&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
* (Minor) Identifiers are not automatically capitalized to match their declaration, as in VB; fortunately, identifiers are not case-sensitive for compilation, so this doesn&amp;#039;t make things ugly the way it does in C/C++. (The pop-up list of methods/properties/events &amp;#039;&amp;#039;sometimes&amp;#039;&amp;#039; won&amp;#039;t show up, however, unless the object&amp;#039;s name is properly capitalized.)&lt;br /&gt;
* The field-list popup isn&amp;#039;t smart in certain circumstances:&lt;br /&gt;
*# Type me.controlname.field (use a real control name and a real field name)&lt;br /&gt;
*# Move cursor somewhere else&lt;br /&gt;
*# go back to same line, and highlight the &amp;quot;.&amp;quot; between &amp;quot;controlname&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;field&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*# type &amp;quot;.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*#* (minor) The list doesn&amp;#039;t automatically select the field which was there already&lt;br /&gt;
*#* (annoying) When you select the field you want, it is inserted between &amp;quot;.&amp;quot; and the fieldname that was there before. This follows logically from the editing rules, but is not what we want to happen; the selected fieldname should replace the old fieldname.&lt;br /&gt;
===Fixed in 3.x===&lt;br /&gt;
* (Major, may be a problem for debugging) No &amp;quot;view stack&amp;quot; window (This is fixed in v3.)&lt;br /&gt;
* (Major but livable) There is no equivalent to the VB right-click &amp;quot;Go to definition&amp;quot; menu command (v3 has &amp;quot;Find definition (F2)&amp;quot;)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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