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HTYP talk:2005-12 Discussion about image uploads

2006-01-17T17:53:27Z

Tdcrone:

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==2005-12-21 16:49 from {{Woozle}}==
Heya Tim (or is it Pam Winton using Tim's account?) -- let me know if you're having difficulty with the images. Cheers! --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 16:49, 21 December 2005 (EST)

==2005-12-22 17:43 from [[User:Tdcrone|Tdcrone]]==
<was almost an e-mail>

Nick,

So, after leaving them to sit patiently for what, three months now, I started to upload the Pinecrest scrapbook pictures yesterday... only to watch the server crash terribly and painfully shortly after.

First, I uploaded a .zip of two of the pictures (01 and 02). It didn't appear to be accepted (even into the recent files list) so I uploaded just the first picture as a PNG. Still no joy.

Then the server was dead, with the SQL error that I'm sure you know since it's fixed now.

I haven't tried .tar.gz, and seeing as how it's only a few dozen pictures it's probably not really worth the trouble save to know if it works; I can just use one of the backend tools to iteratively load them, if you think it'll be all right. I'm also on a commercial but low-bandwidth host now, so I could really host them if you'd prefer that.

-
On another note, would you notice if I used your talk page? I'm sending this through Yoohoo%!? since my home computer doesn't seem to like sshd running anymore, but the talk page would probably be more appropriate.

<Since you posted to my talk page before I could send this, I'll avoid the old RFCs this way. :)>

-
Finally, Outlook doesn't hang up when the connection's gone...

==2005-12-22 17:54 Further information==
So I dug up a real browser (i.e. not IE, aiee!), and get the ever-stimulating "Connection closed by remote server" dialog after each upload.

Any clues?

Thanks ->Tim
==2005-12-23 09:02 from Woozle==
Got your message. Not sure what's up; I recently installed an anti-spam extension, which seems to be working, and I don't ''think'' that should be affecting the uploading ability... but I'm out of town right now, on a dial-up, and not really equipped to check.

You'll probably need to upload files in their destination format, i.e. jpg or png (gif also should work, but for any given gif, png is usually smaller). I can configure the software to accept additional formats, but I don't think it would be able to show them as anything except a downloadable binary (i.e. you can't upload a bunch of images as a .tar.gz and have them automatically unzip, afaik, though I should remember to ask if this is feature is in the works because it would be quite useful).

I will try to remember to test uploads this weekend, after I get back; feel free to leave another message to remind me.

Cheers! --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 09:07, 23 December 2005 (EST)

==2005-12-29 21:55 "Uploading?" from Tdcrone==
I don't see any recently uploaded files... any status? :)

Thanks,
-Tim
===Editor's Note===
I seem to remember that my message below was in response to the one above, despite the timestamps, but maybe I'm confusing the above message with a different one. --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 08:45, 30 December 2005 (EST)
==2005-12-29 17:09 from Woozle==

Got your message -- I just tried uploading a file and had no problems. Do you want to email me the file you're trying to upload and I'll try that? --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 17:09, 29 December 2005 (EST)

==2005-12-30 01:14 from Tdcrone==

The first one is:

[http://trifs.dyndns.org/pinecrest_01.png]

Fortunately I never bothered to set a max size, each file is aroung 10MB.

It occurs to me that perhaps the size is the matter...

Thanks,
-Tim
===Editor's Note===
Ok, the timestamp is definitely wrong here; the next message is in response to this one. --{{woozle}}
==2005-12-29 21:38 ok, yes, there's still a problem ==

I created a much smaller version of the file (200k) and was able to upload it, but this new server we're on now (as of about 2 days ago) is much more strict about security and they've turned off some stuff to which MediaWiki needs access in order to resize images... so the raw image is there, but all the resized versions are broken. I'm waiting for the sysadmin who knows of these things to get back from a funeral so we can work something out; hopefully sometime this weekend. Meantime, remind me to set up an FTP account so you can just upload things without going through the wiki (too close to bed time at the moment). --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 21:38, 29 December 2005 (EST)

== OT: Timestamp issues ==

Not really on topic, but I neglected to set my time zone so all my times are +5 (i.e. 12:00 should be 7:00). Based on this post, it appears to be fixed. Sorry... :)

== 2005-12-30 15:57 FTP site ==

(Ahh yeah, probably your timestamps all said (GMT) and I just didn't notice...)

I've set up an FTP site where you can put large image files. It has several GB of spare room, and I'll be clearing out more as soon as some stuff finishes downloading.

* '''server''': hypertwins.org
* '''user''': twinftp
* '''pass''': guest

We'll just use that for transferring large files for now, i.e. it won't be where the files actually live (for one thing, it's not accessible from http); eventually I'll set up something more permanent, if it seems like it would be useful.

Also, the server sysop has turned off the security restriction which was preventing image uploads from working properly, but I'm still having trouble with them; looking at this now. --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 15:16, 30 December 2005 (EST)

'''16:25'' update: Ok, the image upload problem seems to be fixed -- but I'll be happy to keep taking raw PNG files and webifying them so you're not doing all the work. :-)
== 2006-01-01 14:48 UTC from Tdcrone ==
I'll upload the "orginals" to the FTP site. If you want, I can use imagemagick's convert tool to change the file sizes to something more useful and upload those as well, it's really quite painless since it's all command line.

Thanks!

== 2006-01-01 10:20 ==

No need to do the resizing; I prefer to tweak the images by hand for web display, to improve the lighting and such. MediaWiki uses ImageMagick to produce the smaller-sized images, too. (That was part of the uploading problem earlier...) --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 10:22, 1 January 2006 (EST)

== 2006-01-01 10:45 ==

FTP'ing now, let me know if anything goes awry. Thanks! -- [[User:tdcrone|Tim]] 10:45, 1 January 2006 (EST)

== Upload complete? ==

I think all the scrapbook photos uploaded successfully.

This leaves three classes of images that I haven't uploaded:
1) The yearly gathering invitations, these are small enough (and black and white) that I'll load them straight to the wiki;
2) The phone lists and vendor recommendations, which I think should be behind a password somewhere. Both would be perfect for a wiki, but I wouldn't want a vendor to get annoyed that they were panned in public. :)
3) A big newspaper clipping that I need to stitch together. Do you know of any decent stitching software? It needs to work both NS and EW, since the clipping is 12x14ish and my scanner is not.

Thanks a lot!
-Tim

== Image thumbnail flow? ==

Is there some way to make thumbnailed images flow left-to-right? I'd like the thumb format (at least the caption) on the invitations, but using plain "thumb" of course they scroll down the far right of the page. Hopefully this is pretty easy. :)

== image thumbnail flow ==

if you use something like "150px" instead of "thumb", then MediaWiki will spit out an <img> tag instead of a table with an image in it. This allows images to flow/wrap naturally (tables do not flow, in html; images do) -- but unfortunately you lose the caption display (although any caption you enter will appear as a hover-over comment on the image, so it's not a total loss). Substitute your preferred thumbnail width for "150".

I ''think'' I've got that right.

(I do wish the syntax would allow ''height'' instead of ''width'', as this would make the images align much more nicely; when I get a chance, this is something I will look into hacking as I can't believe it would be all that difficult.)

Sorry I've been slack about processing the other images; life calls. Will get to it in increments as time permits. --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 12:33, 17 January 2006 (EST)

Okay, that's what I feared. I had (rather arbitrarily) used 200px, but I miss the thumbnail captions.

Anyway, you better rush out and catch that life before it gets away. I'll sit back and do my "real" work flipping bits. :)

Thanks,
-TC

HTYP talk:2005-12 Discussion about image uploads

2006-01-17T16:01:49Z

Tdcrone: Image thumbnail flow?

US/NC/Durham/neighborhoods/Pinecrest Road/scrapbook

2006-01-17T15:57:49Z

Tdcrone: /* Introduction */ Added invitations, picture header

Please be advised this is a work in progress. I haven't come to any fixed form for the archive, so right now everything is just inserted, like my basement, chaotically. Eventually I'll reorganize so things are a bit more useful...

==Introduction==
''Pam Winton, who is still the official Pinecrest Road historian because no one else wants to do it, went through the scrapbook and created preliminary lists of people in the pictures. There's a decent chance that I (Tim) have mistyped some names as she wrote them, so please fix them if they appear incorrect... also, I appear to have knocked a couple off in the carrying and don't know where they should go.''

The names default to order by left to right, comments in parentheses; an italicized name means the person is deceased, emboldened means the person still lives on the street. Each caption links to a picture which exists both here and in the hardcopy scrapbook.

==Invitations==
Since the first Pinecrest Road party in 1981, residents have been invited to gather in the street center around the beginning of September. Below are a few surviving copies, providing a brief glimpse into the world of handwriting, ribbon printers, and early versions of PrintShop Pro and Microsoft Works.

[[Image:Second_Pinecrest_Picnic.gif|200px|Second Picnic, 1982]]
[[Image:1983_Pinecrest_Picnic.gif|200px|Third Picnic, 1983]]
[[Image:Sixth_Pinecrest_Picnic.gif|200px|Sixth Picnic, 1986]]
[[Image:Seventh_Pinecrest_Picnic.gif|200px|Seventh Picnic, 1987]]
[[Image:Tenth_Pinecrest_Picnic.gif|200px|Tenth Picnic, 1990]]
[[Image:Eleventh_Pinecrest_Picnic.gif|200px|Eleventh Picnic, 1991]]
[[Image:Thirteenth_Pinecrest_Picnic.gif|200px|Thirteenth Picnic, 1993]]
[[Image:Fourteenth_Pinecrest_Picnic.gif|200px|Fourteenth Picnic, 1994]]
[[Image:Fifteenth_Pinecrest_Picnic.gif|200px|Fifteenth Picnic, 1995]]
[[Image:1997_Pinecrest_Newsletter_p1.gif|200px|Seventeenth Picnic and Newsletter, page 1, 1997]]
[[Image:1997_Pinecrest_Newsletter_p2.gif|200px|Seventeenth Picnic and Newsletter, page 2, 1997]]

==Pictures==
Pictures printed in 1986:

[[Image:Pinecrest_01.web.jpg|thumb|Richard Palmer, Pam Winton, Mary Beach, ?, Ginny Cobo (moved to LA), Nora Cobo (child), Mike Cobo, Janet Hall, Bob Winton]]
[[Image:Pinecrest_02.web.jpg|thumb|Waldo Beach, ?]]
[[Image:Pinecrest 03.web.jpg|thumb|Bryan Flowers, Conrad Hall, James Cobo, Tyler Winton]]
[[Image:Pinecrest 04.web.jpg|thumb|Pam Winton, Mary Beach, ?, Nora Cobo, Pat Kalayjian, ? Kalayjian, Bob Winton, Richard Palmer, Waldo Beach]]

===needing annotation===
===loose annotations===
This is what happens when you take the pictures out to scan them, then put them back, then crop the images into separate files. By way of disseminating knowledge, if you ever have to scan pictures en masse it's helpful to keep the sticky notes in the scans somewhere.

[[Pinecrest 05]]
?

[[Pinecrest 06]]
* ''Mike Cobo''
* '''Janet Hall'''
* '''Bob Winton'''

[[Pinecrest 07]]
* Sarah Palmer

[[Pinecrest 08]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 09]]
* '''Pam Winton''''
* Scott Winton
* Bob Winton
* (background) Mike Cobo
* (background) Pat Kalayjian

[[Pinecrest 10]]
* Janice Palmer
* ?

[[Pinecrest 11]]
* ?
* Jimmy and Nora Cobo
* '''Monte Moses'''
* Marlene Moses
* ?
* ?
* ?

[[Pinecrest 12]]
* ?
* ?
* ?
* Teresa Murray

[[Pinecrest 13]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 14]]
* Ben Palmer
* Richard Palmer
* Sarah Palmer

[[Pinecrest 15]]
* Ben Palmer
* Richard Palmer
* Sarah Palmer

[[Pinecrest 16]]
* Leslie Harper Putchett (on bike)
* Martha Putchett
* Elizabeth Putchett (twin 1)
* Posten Putchett (twin 2)

[[Pinecrest 17]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 18]]
* ''Ed Krantz''
* Nancy Roche
* Carolyn Roche

[[Pinecrest 19]]
* Putchett Twins

[[Pinecrest 20]]
* Alice Richmond (striped pants)
* Waldo's Orchestra

[[Pinecrest 21]]
* Waldo and Mary Beach with Pinecrest Philharmonic

[[Pinecrest 22]]
* Waldo and Pinecrest Philharmonic with Sarah Palmer on Washtub

[[Pinecrest 23]]
* Ditto

[[Pinecrest 24]]
* Monte Moses Performing Magic

[[Pinecrest 25]]
* Pinecrest Philharmonic, 1987

[[Pinecrest 26]]
* Rock Entertainment at Block Party (Berin Linfors, Tyler Winton, and Jeff Crumbliss)

A more recent year
[[Pinecrest 27]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 28]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 29]]
* ? and ?
* ?
* '''Diane Linfors (overalls)'''
* '''Nell Cant'''
* '''Brian Towey'''
* '''Bob Zucker and Janet Hall'''
* Donna Crenshaw

[[Pinecrest 30]]
* '''Sally Wardell'''
* '''Meg Thompson'''
* '''Lew Wardell'''
* (unknown young girls in foreground)

[[Pinecrest 31]]
* ?
* '''Berndt Mueller'''
* '''Robert Truesdale'''
* '''Angelica Mueller'''
* '''Pam Winton'''
* '''Chris Nicchita'''
* Missy Kranz (plaid shirt sitting)

[[Pinecrest 32]]
(Background)
* '''Lew and Sally Wardell'''
* '''Bob Winton'''
(Foreground)
* '''Berndt Mueller'''
* Brett Winton
(Background)
* '''Chris and Cheryl Micchita''' with baby
* '''Robert Truesdale'''
* Kari Linfors (blonde)

Another more recent year:
[[Pinecrest 33]]
* '''Janet Hall'''
* '''Bob Zucker'''
* ?
* ?
* ?
* '''David Solomon''' (bald head)
* '''Brian Towey'''
* '''Gene Linfors''' (baseball cap)
* Bob Winton

[[Pinecrest 34]]
* Janice Palmer
* Mary Beach

[[Pinecrest 35]]
Crowd, including foreground:
* '''Nell Cant'''
* '''Robert Truesdale''' with Tom or Linus
* Monica Rossman (in sunglasses)
* '''Monte Moses'''
* Laura Solomon (sitting in front of table)

[[Pinecrest 36]]
* ''Waldo Beach''
* '''Hugh Maxwell'''
* '''Janet Hall'''
* '''Bob Zucker'''
* '''David Solomon'''
* '''Brian Towey'''
* '''Liz Delong'''
* '''Pat O'Connor''' (background)
* '''David Delong'''
* '''Meg Thompson''''s back
* Dan Thompson

File:1997 Pinecrest Newsletter p2.gif

2006-01-17T15:30:47Z

Tdcrone:

File:1997 Pinecrest Newsletter p1.gif

2006-01-17T15:30:10Z

Tdcrone:

File:1983 Pinecrest Picnic.gif

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Tdcrone:

File:Fifteenth Pinecrest Picnic.gif

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Tdcrone:

File:Fourteenth Pinecrest Picnic.gif

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Tdcrone:

File:Thirteenth Pinecrest Picnic.gif

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Tdcrone:

File:Eleventh Pinecrest Picnic.gif

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Tdcrone:

File:Tenth Pinecrest Picnic.gif

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Tdcrone:

File:Seventh Pinecrest Picnic.gif

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Tdcrone:

File:Sixth Pinecrest Picnic.gif

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Tdcrone:

File:Second Pinecrest Picnic.gif

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Tdcrone:

File:Pinecrest 02.web.jpg

2006-01-17T02:35:26Z

Tdcrone:

[[Category:1986]]
* [[Pinecrest Road Neighborhood]] residents, presumably at an [[Annual Old Pinecrest Road Block Party|annual block party]], circa 1986
==People Pictured==
* Waldo Beach
* ?

File:Pinecrest 03.web.jpg

2006-01-17T02:35:00Z

Tdcrone:

[[Category:1986]]
There is a close-up of these kids in [[:Image:Pinecrest 03.crop-kids.jpg|this picture]]
* [[Pinecrest Road Neighborhood]] residents, presumably at an [[Annual Old Pinecrest Road Block Party|annual block party]], circa 1986
==People Pictured==
* Bryan Flowers (parents still live here)
* Conrad Hall (ditto)
* James Cobo
* Tyler Winton (ditto)

File:Pinecrest 04.web.jpg

2006-01-17T02:34:10Z

Tdcrone:

[[Category:1986]]
* [[Pinecrest Road Neighborhood]] residents, presumably at an [[Annual Old Pinecrest Road Block Party|annual block party]], circa 1986
==People Pictured==
* '''Pam Winton'''
* ''Mary Beach''
* ?
* Nora Cobo (now 23 years old)
* Pat Kalayjian (rented Hylander house on sabbatical year)
* ? Kalayjian (ditto)
* '''Bob Winton'''
* '''Richard Palmer'''
* Waldo Beach

US/NC/Durham/neighborhoods/Pinecrest Road/scrapbook

2006-01-17T02:33:49Z

Tdcrone:

Please be advised this is a work in progress. I haven't come to any fixed form for the archive, so right now everything is just inserted, like my basement, chaotically. Eventually I'll reorganize so things are a bit more useful...

==Introduction==
Pam Winton, who is still the official Pinecrest Road historian because no one else wants to do it, went through the scrapbook and created preliminary lists of people in the pictures. There's a decent chance that I've mistyped some names, so please fix them if they appear incorrect... also, I appear to have knocked a couple off in the carrying and don't know where they should go.

The names default to order by left to right, comments in parentheses; an italicized name means the person is deceased, emboldened means the person still lives on the street. Each caption links to a picture which exists both here and in the hardcopy scrapbook.

Pictures printed in 1986:

[[Image:Pinecrest_01.web.jpg|thumb|Richard Palmer, Pam Winton, Mary Beach, ?, Ginny Cobo (moved to LA), Nora Cobo (child), Mike Cobo, Janet Hall, Bob Winton]]
[[Image:Pinecrest_02.web.jpg|thumb|Waldo Beach, ?]]
[[Image:Pinecrest 03.web.jpg|thumb|Bryan Flowers, Conrad Hall, James Cobo, Tyler Winton]]
[[Image:Pinecrest 04.web.jpg|thumb|Pam Winton, Mary Beach, ?, Nora Cobo, Pat Kalayjian, ? Kalayjian, Bob Winton, Richard Palmer, Waldo Beach]]

===needing annotation===
===loose annotations===
This is what happens when you take the pictures out to scan them, then put them back, then crop the images into separate files. By way of disseminating knowledge, if you ever have to scan pictures en masse it's helpful to keep the sticky notes in the scans somewhere.

[[Pinecrest 05]]
?

[[Pinecrest 06]]
* ''Mike Cobo''
* '''Janet Hall'''
* '''Bob Winton'''

[[Pinecrest 07]]
* Sarah Palmer

[[Pinecrest 08]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 09]]
* '''Pam Winton''''
* Scott Winton
* Bob Winton
* (background) Mike Cobo
* (background) Pat Kalayjian

[[Pinecrest 10]]
* Janice Palmer
* ?

[[Pinecrest 11]]
* ?
* Jimmy and Nora Cobo
* '''Monte Moses'''
* Marlene Moses
* ?
* ?
* ?

[[Pinecrest 12]]
* ?
* ?
* ?
* Teresa Murray

[[Pinecrest 13]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 14]]
* Ben Palmer
* Richard Palmer
* Sarah Palmer

[[Pinecrest 15]]
* Ben Palmer
* Richard Palmer
* Sarah Palmer

[[Pinecrest 16]]
* Leslie Harper Putchett (on bike)
* Martha Putchett
* Elizabeth Putchett (twin 1)
* Posten Putchett (twin 2)

[[Pinecrest 17]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 18]]
* ''Ed Krantz''
* Nancy Roche
* Carolyn Roche

[[Pinecrest 19]]
* Putchett Twins

[[Pinecrest 20]]
* Alice Richmond (striped pants)
* Waldo's Orchestra

[[Pinecrest 21]]
* Waldo and Mary Beach with Pinecrest Philharmonic

[[Pinecrest 22]]
* Waldo and Pinecrest Philharmonic with Sarah Palmer on Washtub

[[Pinecrest 23]]
* Ditto

[[Pinecrest 24]]
* Monte Moses Performing Magic

[[Pinecrest 25]]
* Pinecrest Philharmonic, 1987

[[Pinecrest 26]]
* Rock Entertainment at Block Party (Berin Linfors, Tyler Winton, and Jeff Crumbliss)

A more recent year
[[Pinecrest 27]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 28]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 29]]
* ? and ?
* ?
* '''Diane Linfors (overalls)'''
* '''Nell Cant'''
* '''Brian Towey'''
* '''Bob Zucker and Janet Hall'''
* Donna Crenshaw

[[Pinecrest 30]]
* '''Sally Wardell'''
* '''Meg Thompson'''
* '''Lew Wardell'''
* (unknown young girls in foreground)

[[Pinecrest 31]]
* ?
* '''Berndt Mueller'''
* '''Robert Truesdale'''
* '''Angelica Mueller'''
* '''Pam Winton'''
* '''Chris Nicchita'''
* Missy Kranz (plaid shirt sitting)

[[Pinecrest 32]]
(Background)
* '''Lew and Sally Wardell'''
* '''Bob Winton'''
(Foreground)
* '''Berndt Mueller'''
* Brett Winton
(Background)
* '''Chris and Cheryl Micchita''' with baby
* '''Robert Truesdale'''
* Kari Linfors (blonde)

Another more recent year:
[[Pinecrest 33]]
* '''Janet Hall'''
* '''Bob Zucker'''
* ?
* ?
* ?
* '''David Solomon''' (bald head)
* '''Brian Towey'''
* '''Gene Linfors''' (baseball cap)
* Bob Winton

[[Pinecrest 34]]
* Janice Palmer
* Mary Beach

[[Pinecrest 35]]
Crowd, including foreground:
* '''Nell Cant'''
* '''Robert Truesdale''' with Tom or Linus
* Monica Rossman (in sunglasses)
* '''Monte Moses'''
* Laura Solomon (sitting in front of table)

[[Pinecrest 36]]
* ''Waldo Beach''
* '''Hugh Maxwell'''
* '''Janet Hall'''
* '''Bob Zucker'''
* '''David Solomon'''
* '''Brian Towey'''
* '''Liz Delong'''
* '''Pat O'Connor''' (background)
* '''David Delong'''
* '''Meg Thompson''''s back
* Dan Thompson

File:Pinecrest 04.web.jpg

2006-01-17T02:31:30Z

Tdcrone:

[[Category:1986]]
* [[Pinecrest Road Neighborhood]] residents, presumably at an [[Annual Old Pinecrest Road Block Party|annual block party]], circa 1986
==People Pictured==

File:Pinecrest 03.web.jpg

2006-01-17T02:30:18Z

Tdcrone:

File:Pinecrest 02.web.jpg

2006-01-17T02:29:21Z

Tdcrone:

[[Category:1986]]
* [[Pinecrest Road Neighborhood]] residents, presumably at an [[Annual Old Pinecrest Road Block Party|annual block party]], circa 1986
==People Pictured==

US/NC/Durham/neighborhoods/Pinecrest Road/scrapbook

2006-01-17T02:26:52Z

Tdcrone: /* Introduction */

Please be advised this is a work in progress. I haven't come to any fixed form for the archive, so right now everything is just inserted, like my basement, chaotically. Eventually I'll reorganize so things are a bit more useful...

==Introduction==
Pam Winton, who is still the official Pinecrest Road historian because no one else wants to do it, went through the scrapbook and created preliminary lists of people in the pictures. There's a decent chance that I've mistyped some names, so please fix them if they appear incorrect... also, I appear to have knocked a couple off in the carrying and don't know where they should go.

The names default to order by left to right, comments in parentheses; an italicized name means the person is deceased, emboldened means the person still lives on the street. Each caption links to a picture which exists both here and in the hardcopy scrapbook.

Pictures printed in 1986:

[[Image:Pinecrest_01.web.jpg|thumb|Richard Palmer, Pam Winton, Mary Beach, ?, Ginny Cobo (moved to LA), Nora Cobo (child), Mike Cobo, Janet Hall, Bob Winton]]
[[Image:Pinecrest_02.web.jpg|thumb|Waldo Beach, ?]]
[[Image:Pinecrest 03.web.jpg|thumb|Bryan Flowers, Conrad Hall, James Cobo, Tyler Winton]]
[[Image:Pinecrest 04.web.jpg|thumb|Pam Winton, Mary Beach, ?, Nora Cobo, Pat Kalayjian, ? Kalayjian, Bob Winton, Richard Palmer, Waldo Beach]]

===needing annotation===
===loose annotations===
was "pinecrest_02.png", but picture doesn't match description. ?! Now I'm perplexed too. I'll cross-reference the pictures in the book, if I didn't make them completely disordered.
* '''Pam Winton'''
* ''Mary Beach''
* ?
* Nora Cobo (now 23 years old)
* Pat Kalayjian (rented Hylander house on sabbatical year)
* ? Kalayjian (ditto)
* '''Bob Winton'''
* '''Richard Palmer'''
* Waldo Beach

was "Pinecrest 03" -- goes with Pinecrest_02
* Waldo Beach
* ?

was "Pinecrest 04" -- goes with Pinecrest_03
* Bryan Flowers (parents still live here)
* Conrad Hall (ditto)
* James Cobo
* Tyler Winton (ditto)

Pinecrest 04 image should go with pinecrest 01 description.

This is what happens when you take the pictures out to scan them, then put them back, then crop the images into separate files. By way of disseminating knowledge, if you ever have to scan pictures en masse it's helpful to keep the sticky notes in the scans somewhere.

[[Pinecrest 05]]
?

[[Pinecrest 06]]
* ''Mike Cobo''
* '''Janet Hall'''
* '''Bob Winton'''

[[Pinecrest 07]]
* Sarah Palmer

[[Pinecrest 08]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 09]]
* '''Pam Winton''''
* Scott Winton
* Bob Winton
* (background) Mike Cobo
* (background) Pat Kalayjian

[[Pinecrest 10]]
* Janice Palmer
* ?

[[Pinecrest 11]]
* ?
* Jimmy and Nora Cobo
* '''Monte Moses'''
* Marlene Moses
* ?
* ?
* ?

[[Pinecrest 12]]
* ?
* ?
* ?
* Teresa Murray

[[Pinecrest 13]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 14]]
* Ben Palmer
* Richard Palmer
* Sarah Palmer

[[Pinecrest 15]]
* Ben Palmer
* Richard Palmer
* Sarah Palmer

[[Pinecrest 16]]
* Leslie Harper Putchett (on bike)
* Martha Putchett
* Elizabeth Putchett (twin 1)
* Posten Putchett (twin 2)

[[Pinecrest 17]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 18]]
* ''Ed Krantz''
* Nancy Roche
* Carolyn Roche

[[Pinecrest 19]]
* Putchett Twins

[[Pinecrest 20]]
* Alice Richmond (striped pants)
* Waldo's Orchestra

[[Pinecrest 21]]
* Waldo and Mary Beach with Pinecrest Philharmonic

[[Pinecrest 22]]
* Waldo and Pinecrest Philharmonic with Sarah Palmer on Washtub

[[Pinecrest 23]]
* Ditto

[[Pinecrest 24]]
* Monte Moses Performing Magic

[[Pinecrest 25]]
* Pinecrest Philharmonic, 1987

[[Pinecrest 26]]
* Rock Entertainment at Block Party (Berin Linfors, Tyler Winton, and Jeff Crumbliss)

A more recent year
[[Pinecrest 27]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 28]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 29]]
* ? and ?
* ?
* '''Diane Linfors (overalls)'''
* '''Nell Cant'''
* '''Brian Towey'''
* '''Bob Zucker and Janet Hall'''
* Donna Crenshaw

[[Pinecrest 30]]
* '''Sally Wardell'''
* '''Meg Thompson'''
* '''Lew Wardell'''
* (unknown young girls in foreground)

[[Pinecrest 31]]
* ?
* '''Berndt Mueller'''
* '''Robert Truesdale'''
* '''Angelica Mueller'''
* '''Pam Winton'''
* '''Chris Nicchita'''
* Missy Kranz (plaid shirt sitting)

[[Pinecrest 32]]
(Background)
* '''Lew and Sally Wardell'''
* '''Bob Winton'''
(Foreground)
* '''Berndt Mueller'''
* Brett Winton
(Background)
* '''Chris and Cheryl Micchita''' with baby
* '''Robert Truesdale'''
* Kari Linfors (blonde)

Another more recent year:
[[Pinecrest 33]]
* '''Janet Hall'''
* '''Bob Zucker'''
* ?
* ?
* ?
* '''David Solomon''' (bald head)
* '''Brian Towey'''
* '''Gene Linfors''' (baseball cap)
* Bob Winton

[[Pinecrest 34]]
* Janice Palmer
* Mary Beach

[[Pinecrest 35]]
Crowd, including foreground:
* '''Nell Cant'''
* '''Robert Truesdale''' with Tom or Linus
* Monica Rossman (in sunglasses)
* '''Monte Moses'''
* Laura Solomon (sitting in front of table)

[[Pinecrest 36]]
* ''Waldo Beach''
* '''Hugh Maxwell'''
* '''Janet Hall'''
* '''Bob Zucker'''
* '''David Solomon'''
* '''Brian Towey'''
* '''Liz Delong'''
* '''Pat O'Connor''' (background)
* '''David Delong'''
* '''Meg Thompson''''s back
* Dan Thompson

US/NC/Durham/neighborhoods/Pinecrest Road/scrapbook

2006-01-17T01:47:19Z

Tdcrone: /* loose annotations */

Please be advised this is a work in progress. I haven't come to any fixed form for the archive, so right now everything is just inserted, like my basement, chaotically. Eventually I'll reorganize so things are a bit more useful...

==Introduction==
Pam Winton, who is still the official Pinecrest Road historian because no one else wants to do it, went through the scrapbook and created preliminary lists of people in the pictures. There's a decent chance that I've mistyped some names, so please fix them if they appear incorrect... also, I appear to have knocked a couple off in the carrying and don't know where they should go.

The names default to order by left to right, comments in parentheses; an italicized name means the person is deceased, emboldened means the person still lives on the street. Each caption links to a picture which exists both here and in the hardcopy scrapbook.

Pictures printed in 1986:

[[Image:Pinecrest_01.web.jpg|thumb|Richard Palmer, Pam Winton, Mary Beach, ?, Ginny Cobo (moved to LA), Nora Cobo (child), Mike Cobo, Janet Hall, Bob Winton]]

===needing annotation===
[[Image:Pinecrest_02.web.jpg|200px]]
[[Image:Pinecrest 03.web.jpg|400px]]
[[Image:Pinecrest 04.web.jpg|400px]]
===loose annotations===
was "pinecrest_02.png", but picture doesn't match description. ?! Now I'm perplexed too. I'll cross-reference the pictures in the book, if I didn't make them completely disordered.
* '''Pam Winton'''
* ''Mary Beach''
* ?
* Nora Cobo (now 23 years old)
* Pat Kalayjian (rented Hylander house on sabbatical year)
* ? Kalayjian (ditto)
* '''Bob Winton'''
* '''Richard Palmer'''
* Waldo Beach

was "Pinecrest 03" -- goes with Pinecrest_02
* Waldo Beach
* ?

was "Pinecrest 04" -- goes with Pinecrest_03
* Bryan Flowers (parents still live here)
* Conrad Hall (ditto)
* James Cobo
* Tyler Winton (ditto)

Pinecrest 04 image should go with pinecrest 01 description.

This is what happens when you take the pictures out to scan them, then put them back, then crop the images into separate files. By way of disseminating knowledge, if you ever have to scan pictures en masse it's helpful to keep the sticky notes in the scans somewhere.

[[Pinecrest 05]]
?

[[Pinecrest 06]]
* ''Mike Cobo''
* '''Janet Hall'''
* '''Bob Winton'''

[[Pinecrest 07]]
* Sarah Palmer

[[Pinecrest 08]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 09]]
* '''Pam Winton''''
* Scott Winton
* Bob Winton
* (background) Mike Cobo
* (background) Pat Kalayjian

[[Pinecrest 10]]
* Janice Palmer
* ?

[[Pinecrest 11]]
* ?
* Jimmy and Nora Cobo
* '''Monte Moses'''
* Marlene Moses
* ?
* ?
* ?

[[Pinecrest 12]]
* ?
* ?
* ?
* Teresa Murray

[[Pinecrest 13]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 14]]
* Ben Palmer
* Richard Palmer
* Sarah Palmer

[[Pinecrest 15]]
* Ben Palmer
* Richard Palmer
* Sarah Palmer

[[Pinecrest 16]]
* Leslie Harper Putchett (on bike)
* Martha Putchett
* Elizabeth Putchett (twin 1)
* Posten Putchett (twin 2)

[[Pinecrest 17]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 18]]
* ''Ed Krantz''
* Nancy Roche
* Carolyn Roche

[[Pinecrest 19]]
* Putchett Twins

[[Pinecrest 20]]
* Alice Richmond (striped pants)
* Waldo's Orchestra

[[Pinecrest 21]]
* Waldo and Mary Beach with Pinecrest Philharmonic

[[Pinecrest 22]]
* Waldo and Pinecrest Philharmonic with Sarah Palmer on Washtub

[[Pinecrest 23]]
* Ditto

[[Pinecrest 24]]
* Monte Moses Performing Magic

[[Pinecrest 25]]
* Pinecrest Philharmonic, 1987

[[Pinecrest 26]]
* Rock Entertainment at Block Party (Berin Linfors, Tyler Winton, and Jeff Crumbliss)

A more recent year
[[Pinecrest 27]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 28]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 29]]
* ? and ?
* ?
* '''Diane Linfors (overalls)'''
* '''Nell Cant'''
* '''Brian Towey'''
* '''Bob Zucker and Janet Hall'''
* Donna Crenshaw

[[Pinecrest 30]]
* '''Sally Wardell'''
* '''Meg Thompson'''
* '''Lew Wardell'''
* (unknown young girls in foreground)

[[Pinecrest 31]]
* ?
* '''Berndt Mueller'''
* '''Robert Truesdale'''
* '''Angelica Mueller'''
* '''Pam Winton'''
* '''Chris Nicchita'''
* Missy Kranz (plaid shirt sitting)

[[Pinecrest 32]]
(Background)
* '''Lew and Sally Wardell'''
* '''Bob Winton'''
(Foreground)
* '''Berndt Mueller'''
* Brett Winton
(Background)
* '''Chris and Cheryl Micchita''' with baby
* '''Robert Truesdale'''
* Kari Linfors (blonde)

Another more recent year:
[[Pinecrest 33]]
* '''Janet Hall'''
* '''Bob Zucker'''
* ?
* ?
* ?
* '''David Solomon''' (bald head)
* '''Brian Towey'''
* '''Gene Linfors''' (baseball cap)
* Bob Winton

[[Pinecrest 34]]
* Janice Palmer
* Mary Beach

[[Pinecrest 35]]
Crowd, including foreground:
* '''Nell Cant'''
* '''Robert Truesdale''' with Tom or Linus
* Monica Rossman (in sunglasses)
* '''Monte Moses'''
* Laura Solomon (sitting in front of table)

[[Pinecrest 36]]
* ''Waldo Beach''
* '''Hugh Maxwell'''
* '''Janet Hall'''
* '''Bob Zucker'''
* '''David Solomon'''
* '''Brian Towey'''
* '''Liz Delong'''
* '''Pat O'Connor''' (background)
* '''David Delong'''
* '''Meg Thompson''''s back
* Dan Thompson

US/NC/Durham/neighborhoods/Pinecrest Road/scrapbook

2006-01-16T19:32:50Z

Tdcrone: /* loose annotations */ Editing description/image matching, will return later to do actual captioning.

Please be advised this is a work in progress. I haven't come to any fixed form for the archive, so right now everything is just inserted, like my basement, chaotically. Eventually I'll reorganize so things are a bit more useful...

==Introduction==
Pam Winton, who is still the official Pinecrest Road historian because no one else wants to do it, went through the scrapbook and created preliminary lists of people in the pictures. There's a decent chance that I've mistyped some names, so please fix them if they appear incorrect... also, I appear to have knocked a couple off in the carrying and don't know where they should go.

The names default to order by left to right, comments in parentheses; an italicized name means the person is deceased, emboldened means the person still lives on the street. Each caption links to a picture which exists both here and in the hardcopy scrapbook.

Pictures printed in 1986:

[[Image:Pinecrest_01.web.jpg|thumb|Richard Palmer, Pam Winton, Mary Beach, ?, Ginny Cobo (moved to LA), Nora Cobo (child), Mike Cobo, Janet Hall, Bob Winton]]

===needing annotation===
[[Image:Pinecrest_02.web.jpg|200px]]
[[Image:Pinecrest 03.web.jpg|400px]]
[[Image:Pinecrest 04.web.jpg|400px]]
===loose annotations===
was "pinecrest_02.png", but picture doesn't match description; is in fact Pinecrest_01.png's description
* '''Pam Winton'''
* ''Mary Beach''
* ?
* Nora Cobo (now 23 years old)
* Pat Kalayjian (rented Hylander house on sabbatical year)
* ? Kalayjian (ditto)
* '''Bob Winton'''
* '''Richard Palmer'''
* Waldo Beach

was "Pinecrest 03" -- goes with Pinecrest_02
* Waldo Beach
* ?

was "Pinecrest 04" -- goes with Pinecrest_03
* Bryan Flowers (parents still live here)
* Conrad Hall (ditto)
* James Cobo
* Tyler Winton (ditto)

Pinecrest 04 image should go with pinecrest 01 description.

This is what happens when you take the pictures out to scan them, then put them back, then crop the images into separate files. By way of disseminating knowledge, if you ever have to scan pictures en masse it's helpful to keep the sticky notes in the scans somewhere.

[[Pinecrest 05]]
?

[[Pinecrest 06]]
* ''Mike Cobo''
* '''Janet Hall'''
* '''Bob Winton'''

[[Pinecrest 07]]
* Sarah Palmer

[[Pinecrest 08]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 09]]
* '''Pam Winton''''
* Scott Winton
* Bob Winton
* (background) Mike Cobo
* (background) Pat Kalayjian

[[Pinecrest 10]]
* Janice Palmer
* ?

[[Pinecrest 11]]
* ?
* Jimmy and Nora Cobo
* '''Monte Moses'''
* Marlene Moses
* ?
* ?
* ?

[[Pinecrest 12]]
* ?
* ?
* ?
* Teresa Murray

[[Pinecrest 13]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 14]]
* Ben Palmer
* Richard Palmer
* Sarah Palmer

[[Pinecrest 15]]
* Ben Palmer
* Richard Palmer
* Sarah Palmer

[[Pinecrest 16]]
* Leslie Harper Putchett (on bike)
* Martha Putchett
* Elizabeth Putchett (twin 1)
* Posten Putchett (twin 2)

[[Pinecrest 17]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 18]]
* ''Ed Krantz''
* Nancy Roche
* Carolyn Roche

[[Pinecrest 19]]
* Putchett Twins

[[Pinecrest 20]]
* Alice Richmond (striped pants)
* Waldo's Orchestra

[[Pinecrest 21]]
* Waldo and Mary Beach with Pinecrest Philharmonic

[[Pinecrest 22]]
* Waldo and Pinecrest Philharmonic with Sarah Palmer on Washtub

[[Pinecrest 23]]
* Ditto

[[Pinecrest 24]]
* Monte Moses Performing Magic

[[Pinecrest 25]]
* Pinecrest Philharmonic, 1987

[[Pinecrest 26]]
* Rock Entertainment at Block Party (Berin Linfors, Tyler Winton, and Jeff Crumbliss)

A more recent year
[[Pinecrest 27]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 28]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 29]]
* ? and ?
* ?
* '''Diane Linfors (overalls)'''
* '''Nell Cant'''
* '''Brian Towey'''
* '''Bob Zucker and Janet Hall'''
* Donna Crenshaw

[[Pinecrest 30]]
* '''Sally Wardell'''
* '''Meg Thompson'''
* '''Lew Wardell'''
* (unknown young girls in foreground)

[[Pinecrest 31]]
* ?
* '''Berndt Mueller'''
* '''Robert Truesdale'''
* '''Angelica Mueller'''
* '''Pam Winton'''
* '''Chris Nicchita'''
* Missy Kranz (plaid shirt sitting)

[[Pinecrest 32]]
(Background)
* '''Lew and Sally Wardell'''
* '''Bob Winton'''
(Foreground)
* '''Berndt Mueller'''
* Brett Winton
(Background)
* '''Chris and Cheryl Micchita''' with baby
* '''Robert Truesdale'''
* Kari Linfors (blonde)

Another more recent year:
[[Pinecrest 33]]
* '''Janet Hall'''
* '''Bob Zucker'''
* ?
* ?
* ?
* '''David Solomon''' (bald head)
* '''Brian Towey'''
* '''Gene Linfors''' (baseball cap)
* Bob Winton

[[Pinecrest 34]]
* Janice Palmer
* Mary Beach

[[Pinecrest 35]]
Crowd, including foreground:
* '''Nell Cant'''
* '''Robert Truesdale''' with Tom or Linus
* Monica Rossman (in sunglasses)
* '''Monte Moses'''
* Laura Solomon (sitting in front of table)

[[Pinecrest 36]]
* ''Waldo Beach''
* '''Hugh Maxwell'''
* '''Janet Hall'''
* '''Bob Zucker'''
* '''David Solomon'''
* '''Brian Towey'''
* '''Liz Delong'''
* '''Pat O'Connor''' (background)
* '''David Delong'''
* '''Meg Thompson''''s back
* Dan Thompson

Linux

2006-01-16T19:25:25Z

Tdcrone: /* How To */

{{seedling}}
[[Computing]]: [[Operating Systems]]: [[Linux]]
==Articles==
* [[Linux Distributions]]: different versions of Linux
* [[Linux Shell Commands]]
* [[Linux vs. Windows]]
===Components===
====Desktop Environments====
* [[KDE]]
** [[Konqueror]]
* [[Gnome]]

===[[Device management]]===

===Security===
* [[Linux users]]
* [[Linux groups]]
* Commands:
** Users: [[useradd]], [[userdel]], [[usermod]], [[chown]]
** Groups: [[groupadd]], [[groupdel]], [[groupmod]], [[groups]], [[chgrp]]

===Hardware===
* [[Linux Audio]]
** [[Linux Pro Audio]]: multitrack and high-rate/depth editing
** [[Linux Music Production]]: producing music using Linux
* [[Wireless Network Cards in Linux]]
* [[Optical Scanners in Linux]]
* [[Webcams in Linux]]
* Commands:
** [[lspci]] - lists all PCI devices found
** [[dmesg]]|[[tail]] - somehow helps figure out what USB devices have been detected
* Miscellaneous
** Chips
*** WISChip GO7007(SB) (often used in TV tuner/capture cards): [http://www.wischip.com/silicon_7007sb.php home page] [http://go7007.zoeloelip.be/wiki/ unofficial wiki]

==Reference Links==
*[http://tuxmobil.org/ TuxMobil]: Linux With Laptops, Notebooks, PDAs and Mobile Cell Phones
*[http://www.reallylinux.com/ Really Linux]: for beginning Linux users
*[http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/ LinuxQuestions wiki]
*[http://linux.ctyme.com/ Linux Manpages]: [[manpages]] documentation as searchable web pages
*[http://arstechnica.com/guides/tweaks/linux-audio.ars Linux audio]: guide to audio apps/systems in Linux
*[http://www.net-security.org/article.php?id=809 Securing Linux]
*[http://opensourceversus.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=155&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 Windows vs. Linux]: comparative screenshots
* 2005-08-30 [http://www.freedesktop.org/~jonsmirl/graphics.html The State of Linux Graphics]: technical backgrounder

==Issues==
The following may reflect [[User:Woozle|my]] own ignorance rather than an actual shortcoming in Linux:
*Development
**There appears to be no mechanism corresponding to [[ActiveX]] (as used for desktop app development)
**There appears to be no application corresponding to [[Microsoft Access]]. Yes, you can do all the same stuff with various available tools, but not quickly; v2.0 of [[OpenOffice]] is apparently going to include a tool which may be a step in the right direction...
*Regular Use
**In Windows, if you create a link to an executable script (batch file -- *.bat) on your desktop (or anywhere), the link is executable with a double-click. Under [[KDE]] (in [[Ubuntu]]), I can't figure out how to make it execute at all without using a terminal. ('''Update''': I have figured this out. Must document.)

Criticisms of UNIX, from which Linux is derived: [http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=424451&rl=1 10 Things I Hate About UNIX]

==Things You Must Know==
In Linux, you often run into things which you Just Have To Know in order to make things work; there is not really any way to find them out. This is bad UI design, but for now it's the situation. I will be listing them here as I find them out.
* When Perl is missing a module, the package name is always (I am told) "perl-libraryname". For example, for Tk.pm, the package is perl-Tk. So in Fedora you would type "yum install perl-Tk". Presumably in debian-derived distributions, you would type "apt-get install perl-Tk", though I have not actually tested this. (Remember that package names, like Linux filenames, are case-sensitive, so that T must be uppercase or it won't work.) If the library is within a Perl package, e.g. Net::Telnet, then the format is perl-Package-Library, e.g. perl-Net-Telnet.
* To run a binary which is located in the current directory, from the command line, you have to type "./" before the binary's name. It's not clear why this is.
* Linuxese for "help" is "[[manpages|man]]", which is short for "manual". This help system is often referred to as "the manpages".
==How To==
*To '''mount an ISO image as a folder''':
[[mount]] -o loop NameOfISO.iso /mount/wherever
''On older distributions, you may need instead ''[[mount]] -o loop -t iso9660 ...
*To swap drives so DOS or Windows can be booted off the 2nd drive:
**On reboot, when you get to the boot loader startup, select whatever option gets you to a [[grub]] command line ("c" in Fedora Core)
**At the grub prompt, enter the following:
map (hd0) (hd1)
map (hd1) (hd0)
rootnoverify (hd1,0)
chainloader +1
makeactive
boot
This is a temporary fix which lets you test the changes without making your computer unbootable if they fail. To make the changes permanent, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and enter the two "map" lines under the Windows entry. (Will document in more detail when I have time to look at the format of menu.lst. I'm also not sure if "hd" is always the prefix for the drives or if that might be different depending on the types of drives – e.g. SATA, ATA, IDE – involved.)
*'''Time Zone''': If the [[KDE]] Clock-setting widget seems to be refusing to set the time zone (or your system clock is refusing to show anything except GMT time), this command may work:
ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/NewYork /etc/localtime
...where "/America/NewYork" should be replaced by the appropriate file for your time zone. I have not been able to find any documentation on this feature; the command was suggested to me by someone in the #kde chat room at irc.freenode.net (see [http://freenode.net/]). Remember to use the console "date" command to verify what the system clock is currently set to. --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 08:45, 23 Apr 2005 (CST)
*To force an update of the system clock:
ntpdate pool.ntp.org
*To make this update run automatically, go into root and run kcron (or cron if you're comfortable with [[CLI]]
*'''Emptying the Trash''': KDE does have trash-management built in, but it's not always obvious. You can do any of the following:
**Navigate (in Konqueror) to "trash:/", then right-click on the panel showing the contents, and select "Empty trash".
**Right-click on the applet panel and add the Trash applet, then left-click on it to use its various functions.
**Create a new URL link on the desktop, give it the URL "trash:/", then right-click on it (my preferred solution). A trashcan icon is available in the "filesystems" icon group.
===Running a remote X session===
To have a "window" into another computer -- sort of like VNC, but better:
* On the local machine (note the space before the ":"):
Xnest -ac :1
* On the remote machine (via [[ssh]] or equivalent):
export DISPLAY=''yourmachine'':1
...where ''yourmachine'' is the name of your local machine. If you get messages indicating that it's having trouble connecting to ''yourmachine'', try using an IP address instead.
* You will then need to run the command to start a GUI session; startkde starts [[KDE]]. Not sure what other commands might be available.

Linux distributions

2006-01-04T10:35:14Z

Tdcrone: /* The List */ Answered the question.

{{seed}}
[[Computing]]: [[Operating Systems]]: [[Linux]]: [[Linux Distributions|Distributions]]

[[Linux]] is available in many different flavors, each with different merits and weaknesses. There is no "official" version of Linux. The various flavors each "fork" off from the original Unix sources at various different points; the details of this could form an article all by themselves.
==Reference==
* {{wikipedia|Linux distribution}}
==The List==
* [http://archlinux.org ArchLinux] ([http://wiki.archlinux.org/ wiki])
* [http://www.centos.org/ CentOS]
* [http://damnsmalllinux.org/ Damn Small Linux] (DSL)
* [[Debian]] (http://debian.org/)
** [http://www.mepis.org/ Mepis]: includes [[ndiswrapper]]
** [http://www.morphix.org/ Morphix] ([http://www.morphix.org/wiki/ wiki]): live CD with install (currently in beta)
**:Note: Morphix's front page says it is [[fork (software)|fork]]ed from Debian, but the [http://www.morphix.org/manual/how_tos/docbook_html/ar01s06.html FAQ] says it is derived from Knoppix. Is Knoppix derived from Debian? [http://www.knoppix.net/about.php Yes it is.]
** [[Ubuntu]]
* [[Fedora]] Core (formerly [[Red Hat Linux]])
* [http://www.gentoo.org/ Gentoo] ([http://gentoo-wiki.com/ unofficial wiki])
* [http://knoppix.org/ Knoppix]: live CD only
* [http://www.symphonyos.com/ SymphonyOS]
* [http://www.opensuse.org/ SUSE]
* [http://www.pclinuxonline.com/pclos/ PCLinux]

HTYP talk:2005-12 Discussion about image uploads

2006-01-02T12:46:29Z

Tdcrone: Upload complete?

HTYP talk:2005-12 Discussion about image uploads

2006-01-01T15:46:28Z

Tdcrone: 2006, add info in "real" edit mode

HTYP talk:2005-12 Discussion about image uploads

2006-01-01T14:48:04Z

Tdcrone:

[[Category:2005-12]][[Category:Dated Items]]
==Usage Notes==
* To receive email notifications when this page is updated:
*# In your user preferences, check the box next to "Send me an email on page changes" in the "Email" box on your "User data" options page
*# "watch" this page (in the default skin, click on the [watch] tab at top; may be elsewhere in other skins)
* To add a new entry, click the [+] tab at top (in the default skin).
===User Questions===
* (TC) And I don't remember how to insert an extra tab / create a sublist / whatever it's called these days in wiki.
** (W) See [[Help:Editing#Lists|here]] (new page created to answer this question ^_^ )

==2005-12-21 16:49 from {{Woozle}}==
Heya Tim (or is it Pam Winton using Tim's account?) -- let me know if you're having difficulty with the images. Cheers! --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 16:49, 21 December 2005 (EST)

==2005-12-22 17:43 from [[User:Tdcrone|Tdcrone]]==
<was almost an e-mail>

Nick,

So, after leaving them to sit patiently for what, three months now, I started to upload the Pinecrest scrapbook pictures yesterday... only to watch the server crash terribly and painfully shortly after.

First, I uploaded a .zip of two of the pictures (01 and 02). It didn't appear to be accepted (even into the recent files list) so I uploaded just the first picture as a PNG. Still no joy.

Then the server was dead, with the SQL error that I'm sure you know since it's fixed now.

I haven't tried .tar.gz, and seeing as how it's only a few dozen pictures it's probably not really worth the trouble save to know if it works; I can just use one of the backend tools to iteratively load them, if you think it'll be all right. I'm also on a commercial but low-bandwidth host now, so I could really host them if you'd prefer that.

-
On another note, would you notice if I used your talk page? I'm sending this through Yoohoo%!? since my home computer doesn't seem to like sshd running anymore, but the talk page would probably be more appropriate.

<Since you posted to my talk page before I could send this, I'll avoid the old RFCs this way. :)>

-
Finally, Outlook doesn't hang up when the connection's gone...

==2005-12-22 17:54 Further information==
So I dug up a real browser (i.e. not IE, aiee!), and get the ever-stimulating "Connection closed by remote server" dialog after each upload.

Any clues?

Thanks ->Tim
==2005-12-23 09:02 from Woozle==
Got your message. Not sure what's up; I recently installed an anti-spam extension, which seems to be working, and I don't ''think'' that should be affecting the uploading ability... but I'm out of town right now, on a dial-up, and not really equipped to check.

You'll probably need to upload files in their destination format, i.e. jpg or png (gif also should work, but for any given gif, png is usually smaller). I can configure the software to accept additional formats, but I don't think it would be able to show them as anything except a downloadable binary (i.e. you can't upload a bunch of images as a .tar.gz and have them automatically unzip, afaik, though I should remember to ask if this is feature is in the works because it would be quite useful).

I will try to remember to test uploads this weekend, after I get back; feel free to leave another message to remind me.

Cheers! --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 09:07, 23 December 2005 (EST)

==2005-12-29 21:55 "Uploading?" from Tdcrone==
I don't see any recently uploaded files... any status? :)

Thanks,
-Tim
===Editor's Note===
I seem to remember that my message below was in response to the one above, despite the timestamps, but maybe I'm confusing the above message with a different one. --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 08:45, 30 December 2005 (EST)
==2005-12-29 17:09 from Woozle==

Got your message -- I just tried uploading a file and had no problems. Do you want to email me the file you're trying to upload and I'll try that? --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 17:09, 29 December 2005 (EST)

==2005-12-30 01:14 from Tdcrone==

The first one is:

[http://trifs.dyndns.org/pinecrest_01.png]

Fortunately I never bothered to set a max size, each file is aroung 10MB.

It occurs to me that perhaps the size is the matter...

Thanks,
-Tim
===Editor's Note===
Ok, the timestamp is definitely wrong here; the next message is in response to this one. --{{woozle}}
==2005-12-29 21:38 ok, yes, there's still a problem ==

I created a much smaller version of the file (200k) and was able to upload it, but this new server we're on now (as of about 2 days ago) is much more strict about security and they've turned off some stuff to which MediaWiki needs access in order to resize images... so the raw image is there, but all the resized versions are broken. I'm waiting for the sysadmin who knows of these things to get back from a funeral so we can work something out; hopefully sometime this weekend. Meantime, remind me to set up an FTP account so you can just upload things without going through the wiki (too close to bed time at the moment). --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 21:38, 29 December 2005 (EST)

== OT: Timestamp issues ==

Not really on topic, but I neglected to set my time zone so all my times are +5 (i.e. 12:00 should be 7:00). Based on this post, it appears to be fixed. Sorry... :)

== 2005-12-30 15:57 FTP site ==

(Ahh yeah, probably your timestamps all said (GMT) and I just didn't notice...)

I've set up an FTP site where you can put large image files. It has several GB of spare room, and I'll be clearing out more as soon as some stuff finishes downloading.

* '''server''': hypertwins.org
* '''user''': twinftp
* '''pass''': guest

We'll just use that for transferring large files for now, i.e. it won't be where the files actually live (for one thing, it's not accessible from http); eventually I'll set up something more permanent, if it seems like it would be useful.

Also, the server sysop has turned off the security restriction which was preventing image uploads from working properly, but I'm still having trouble with them; looking at this now. --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 15:16, 30 December 2005 (EST)

'''16:25'' update: Ok, the image upload problem seems to be fixed -- but I'll be happy to keep taking raw PNG files and webifying them so you're not doing all the work. :-)

I'll upload the "orginals" to the FTP site. If you want, I can use imagemagick's convert tool to change the file sizes to something more useful and upload those as well, it's really quite painless since it's all command line.

Thanks!

User talk:Tdcrone

2006-01-01T14:46:00Z

Tdcrone: /* No more e-mails */

(Uploading discussion has been consolidated & moved to [[HTYP talk:2005-12 Discussion about image uploads]]. Updated! --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 15:17, 30 December 2005 (EST))

User talk:Tdcrone

2006-01-01T14:45:24Z

Tdcrone: No more e-mails

(Uploading discussion has been consolidated & moved to [[HTYP talk:2005-12 Discussion about image uploads]]. Updated! --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 15:17, 30 December 2005 (EST))

== No more e-mails ==

Bizarre, now I don't even get mails about my talk page.

Oh well, no big deal.

Anyhow, I'll upload the "orginals" to the FTP site. If you want, I can use imagemagick's convert tool to change the file sizes to something more useful and upload those as well.

Thanks!

HTYP talk:2005-12 Discussion about image uploads

2005-12-30T15:49:22Z

Tdcrone: /* Usage Notes */

[[Category:2005-12]][[Category:Dated Items]]
==Usage Notes==
* I thought at first that "watching" a page would cause email notifications to be sent to all watchers when it changed, but unfortunately this does not appear to be the case, at least as currently configured. So for now, we'll each post an "updated [time]" notice on each other's talk pages so we know to check here...
* (TC) My watch of [[User Talk:Woozle]] sent me an update, though talk pages may be special. I'm watching this one now, so I'll update when something happens.
* (TC) And I don't remember how to insert an extra tab / create a sublist / whatever it's called these days in wiki.
* To add a new entry, click the "+" tab at top.

==2005-12-21 16:49 from {{Woozle}}==
Heya Tim (or is it Pam Winton using Tim's account?) -- let me know if you're having difficulty with the images. Cheers! --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 16:49, 21 December 2005 (EST)

==2005-12-22 17:43 from [[User:Tdcrone|Tdcrone]]==
<was almost an e-mail>

Nick,

So, after leaving them to sit patiently for what, three months now, I started to upload the Pinecrest scrapbook pictures yesterday... only to watch the server crash terribly and painfully shortly after.

First, I uploaded a .zip of two of the pictures (01 and 02). It didn't appear to be accepted (even into the recent files list) so I uploaded just the first picture as a PNG. Still no joy.

Then the server was dead, with the SQL error that I'm sure you know since it's fixed now.

I haven't tried .tar.gz, and seeing as how it's only a few dozen pictures it's probably not really worth the trouble save to know if it works; I can just use one of the backend tools to iteratively load them, if you think it'll be all right. I'm also on a commercial but low-bandwidth host now, so I could really host them if you'd prefer that.

-
On another note, would you notice if I used your talk page? I'm sending this through Yoohoo%!? since my home computer doesn't seem to like sshd running anymore, but the talk page would probably be more appropriate.

<Since you posted to my talk page before I could send this, I'll avoid the old RFCs this way. :)>

-
Finally, Outlook doesn't hang up when the connection's gone...

==2005-12-22 17:54 Further information==
So I dug up a real browser (i.e. not IE, aiee!), and get the ever-stimulating "Connection closed by remote server" dialog after each upload.

Any clues?

Thanks ->Tim
==2005-12-23 09:02 from Woozle==
Got your message. Not sure what's up; I recently installed an anti-spam extension, which seems to be working, and I don't ''think'' that should be affecting the uploading ability... but I'm out of town right now, on a dial-up, and not really equipped to check.

You'll probably need to upload files in their destination format, i.e. jpg or png (gif also should work, but for any given gif, png is usually smaller). I can configure the software to accept additional formats, but I don't think it would be able to show them as anything except a downloadable binary (i.e. you can't upload a bunch of images as a .tar.gz and have them automatically unzip, afaik, though I should remember to ask if this is feature is in the works because it would be quite useful).

I will try to remember to test uploads this weekend, after I get back; feel free to leave another message to remind me.

Cheers! --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 09:07, 23 December 2005 (EST)

==2005-12-29 21:55 "Uploading?" from Tdcrone==
I don't see any recently uploaded files... any status? :)

Thanks,
-Tim
===Editor's Note===
I seem to remember that my message below was in response to the one above, despite the timestamps, but maybe I'm confusing the above message with a different one. --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 08:45, 30 December 2005 (EST)
==2005-12-29 17:09 from Woozle==

Got your message -- I just tried uploading a file and had no problems. Do you want to email me the file you're trying to upload and I'll try that? --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 17:09, 29 December 2005 (EST)

==2005-12-30 01:14 from Tdcrone==

The first one is:

[http://trifs.dyndns.org/pinecrest_01.png]

Fortunately I never bothered to set a max size, each file is aroung 10MB.

It occurs to me that perhaps the size is the matter...

Thanks,
-Tim
===Editor's Note===
Ok, the timestamp is definitely wrong here; the next message is in response to this one. --{{woozle}}
==2005-12-29 21:38 ok, yes, there's still a problem ==

I created a much smaller version of the file (200k) and was able to upload it, but this new server we're on now (as of about 2 days ago) is much more strict about security and they've turned off some stuff to which MediaWiki needs access in order to resize images... so the raw image is there, but all the resized versions are broken. I'm waiting for the sysadmin who knows of these things to get back from a funeral so we can work something out; hopefully sometime this weekend. Meantime, remind me to set up an FTP account so you can just upload things without going through the wiki (too close to bed time at the moment). --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 21:38, 29 December 2005 (EST)

== OT: Timestamp issues ==

Not really on topic, but I neglected to set my time zone so all my times are +5 (i.e. 12:00 should be 7:00). Based on this post, it appears to be fixed. Sorry... :)

HTYP talk:2005-12 Discussion about image uploads

2005-12-30T15:47:52Z

Tdcrone: /* Usage Notes */

[[Category:2005-12]][[Category:Dated Items]]
==Usage Notes==
* I thought at first that "watching" a page would cause email notifications to be sent to all watchers when it changed, but unfortunately this does not appear to be the case, at least as currently configured. So for now, we'll each post an "updated [time]" notice on each other's talk pages so we know to check here...
* My watch of [[User Talk:Woozle]] sent me an update, though talk pages may be special. I'm watching this one now, so I'll update when something happens.
* To add a new entry, click the "+" tab at top.

==2005-12-21 16:49 from {{Woozle}}==
Heya Tim (or is it Pam Winton using Tim's account?) -- let me know if you're having difficulty with the images. Cheers! --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 16:49, 21 December 2005 (EST)

==2005-12-22 17:43 from [[User:Tdcrone|Tdcrone]]==
<was almost an e-mail>

Nick,

So, after leaving them to sit patiently for what, three months now, I started to upload the Pinecrest scrapbook pictures yesterday... only to watch the server crash terribly and painfully shortly after.

First, I uploaded a .zip of two of the pictures (01 and 02). It didn't appear to be accepted (even into the recent files list) so I uploaded just the first picture as a PNG. Still no joy.

Then the server was dead, with the SQL error that I'm sure you know since it's fixed now.

I haven't tried .tar.gz, and seeing as how it's only a few dozen pictures it's probably not really worth the trouble save to know if it works; I can just use one of the backend tools to iteratively load them, if you think it'll be all right. I'm also on a commercial but low-bandwidth host now, so I could really host them if you'd prefer that.

-
On another note, would you notice if I used your talk page? I'm sending this through Yoohoo%!? since my home computer doesn't seem to like sshd running anymore, but the talk page would probably be more appropriate.

<Since you posted to my talk page before I could send this, I'll avoid the old RFCs this way. :)>

-
Finally, Outlook doesn't hang up when the connection's gone...

==2005-12-22 17:54 Further information==
So I dug up a real browser (i.e. not IE, aiee!), and get the ever-stimulating "Connection closed by remote server" dialog after each upload.

Any clues?

Thanks ->Tim
==2005-12-23 09:02 from Woozle==
Got your message. Not sure what's up; I recently installed an anti-spam extension, which seems to be working, and I don't ''think'' that should be affecting the uploading ability... but I'm out of town right now, on a dial-up, and not really equipped to check.

You'll probably need to upload files in their destination format, i.e. jpg or png (gif also should work, but for any given gif, png is usually smaller). I can configure the software to accept additional formats, but I don't think it would be able to show them as anything except a downloadable binary (i.e. you can't upload a bunch of images as a .tar.gz and have them automatically unzip, afaik, though I should remember to ask if this is feature is in the works because it would be quite useful).

I will try to remember to test uploads this weekend, after I get back; feel free to leave another message to remind me.

Cheers! --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 09:07, 23 December 2005 (EST)

==2005-12-29 21:55 "Uploading?" from Tdcrone==
I don't see any recently uploaded files... any status? :)

Thanks,
-Tim
===Editor's Note===
I seem to remember that my message below was in response to the one above, despite the timestamps, but maybe I'm confusing the above message with a different one. --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 08:45, 30 December 2005 (EST)
==2005-12-29 17:09 from Woozle==

Got your message -- I just tried uploading a file and had no problems. Do you want to email me the file you're trying to upload and I'll try that? --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 17:09, 29 December 2005 (EST)

==2005-12-30 01:14 from Tdcrone==

The first one is:

[http://trifs.dyndns.org/pinecrest_01.png]

Fortunately I never bothered to set a max size, each file is aroung 10MB.

It occurs to me that perhaps the size is the matter...

Thanks,
-Tim
===Editor's Note===
Ok, the timestamp is definitely wrong here; the next message is in response to this one. --{{woozle}}
==2005-12-29 21:38 ok, yes, there's still a problem ==

I created a much smaller version of the file (200k) and was able to upload it, but this new server we're on now (as of about 2 days ago) is much more strict about security and they've turned off some stuff to which MediaWiki needs access in order to resize images... so the raw image is there, but all the resized versions are broken. I'm waiting for the sysadmin who knows of these things to get back from a funeral so we can work something out; hopefully sometime this weekend. Meantime, remind me to set up an FTP account so you can just upload things without going through the wiki (too close to bed time at the moment). --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 21:38, 29 December 2005 (EST)

== OT: Timestamp issues ==

Not really on topic, but I neglected to set my time zone so all my times are +5 (i.e. 12:00 should be 7:00). Based on this post, it appears to be fixed. Sorry... :)

HTYP talk:2005-12 Discussion about image uploads

2005-12-30T15:46:58Z

Tdcrone: /* Usage Notes */

[[Category:2005-12]][[Category:Dated Items]]
==Usage Notes==
* I thought at first that "watching" a page would cause email notifications to be sent to all watchers when it changed, but unfortunately this does not appear to be the case, at least as currently configured. So for now, we'll each post an "updated [time]" notice on each other's talk pages so we know to check here...
* My watch of your talk page sent me an update, though talk pages may be special. I'm watching this one now, so I'll update when something happens.
* To add a new entry, click the "+" tab at top.

==2005-12-21 16:49 from {{Woozle}}==
Heya Tim (or is it Pam Winton using Tim's account?) -- let me know if you're having difficulty with the images. Cheers! --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 16:49, 21 December 2005 (EST)

==2005-12-22 17:43 from [[User:Tdcrone|Tdcrone]]==
<was almost an e-mail>

Nick,

So, after leaving them to sit patiently for what, three months now, I started to upload the Pinecrest scrapbook pictures yesterday... only to watch the server crash terribly and painfully shortly after.

First, I uploaded a .zip of two of the pictures (01 and 02). It didn't appear to be accepted (even into the recent files list) so I uploaded just the first picture as a PNG. Still no joy.

Then the server was dead, with the SQL error that I'm sure you know since it's fixed now.

I haven't tried .tar.gz, and seeing as how it's only a few dozen pictures it's probably not really worth the trouble save to know if it works; I can just use one of the backend tools to iteratively load them, if you think it'll be all right. I'm also on a commercial but low-bandwidth host now, so I could really host them if you'd prefer that.

-
On another note, would you notice if I used your talk page? I'm sending this through Yoohoo%!? since my home computer doesn't seem to like sshd running anymore, but the talk page would probably be more appropriate.

<Since you posted to my talk page before I could send this, I'll avoid the old RFCs this way. :)>

-
Finally, Outlook doesn't hang up when the connection's gone...

==2005-12-22 17:54 Further information==
So I dug up a real browser (i.e. not IE, aiee!), and get the ever-stimulating "Connection closed by remote server" dialog after each upload.

Any clues?

Thanks ->Tim
==2005-12-23 09:02 from Woozle==
Got your message. Not sure what's up; I recently installed an anti-spam extension, which seems to be working, and I don't ''think'' that should be affecting the uploading ability... but I'm out of town right now, on a dial-up, and not really equipped to check.

You'll probably need to upload files in their destination format, i.e. jpg or png (gif also should work, but for any given gif, png is usually smaller). I can configure the software to accept additional formats, but I don't think it would be able to show them as anything except a downloadable binary (i.e. you can't upload a bunch of images as a .tar.gz and have them automatically unzip, afaik, though I should remember to ask if this is feature is in the works because it would be quite useful).

I will try to remember to test uploads this weekend, after I get back; feel free to leave another message to remind me.

Cheers! --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 09:07, 23 December 2005 (EST)

==2005-12-29 21:55 "Uploading?" from Tdcrone==
I don't see any recently uploaded files... any status? :)

Thanks,
-Tim
===Editor's Note===
I seem to remember that my message below was in response to the one above, despite the timestamps, but maybe I'm confusing the above message with a different one. --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 08:45, 30 December 2005 (EST)
==2005-12-29 17:09 from Woozle==

Got your message -- I just tried uploading a file and had no problems. Do you want to email me the file you're trying to upload and I'll try that? --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 17:09, 29 December 2005 (EST)

==2005-12-30 01:14 from Tdcrone==

The first one is:

[http://trifs.dyndns.org/pinecrest_01.png]

Fortunately I never bothered to set a max size, each file is aroung 10MB.

It occurs to me that perhaps the size is the matter...

Thanks,
-Tim
===Editor's Note===
Ok, the timestamp is definitely wrong here; the next message is in response to this one. --{{woozle}}
==2005-12-29 21:38 ok, yes, there's still a problem ==

I created a much smaller version of the file (200k) and was able to upload it, but this new server we're on now (as of about 2 days ago) is much more strict about security and they've turned off some stuff to which MediaWiki needs access in order to resize images... so the raw image is there, but all the resized versions are broken. I'm waiting for the sysadmin who knows of these things to get back from a funeral so we can work something out; hopefully sometime this weekend. Meantime, remind me to set up an FTP account so you can just upload things without going through the wiki (too close to bed time at the moment). --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 21:38, 29 December 2005 (EST)

== OT: Timestamp issues ==

Not really on topic, but I neglected to set my time zone so all my times are +5 (i.e. 12:00 should be 7:00). Based on this post, it appears to be fixed. Sorry... :)

HTYP talk:2005-12 Discussion about image uploads

2005-12-30T15:38:59Z

Tdcrone:

[[Category:2005-12]][[Category:Dated Items]]
==Usage Notes==
* I thought at first that "watching" a page would cause email notifications to be sent to all watchers when it changed, but unfortunately this does not appear to be the case, at least as currently configured. So for now, we'll each post an "updated [time]" notice on each other's talk pages so we know to check here...
* To add a new entry, click the "+" tab at top.
==2005-12-21 16:49 from {{Woozle}}==
Heya Tim (or is it Pam Winton using Tim's account?) -- let me know if you're having difficulty with the images. Cheers! --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 16:49, 21 December 2005 (EST)

==2005-12-22 17:43 from [[User:Tdcrone|Tdcrone]]==
<was almost an e-mail>

Nick,

So, after leaving them to sit patiently for what, three months now, I started to upload the Pinecrest scrapbook pictures yesterday... only to watch the server crash terribly and painfully shortly after.

First, I uploaded a .zip of two of the pictures (01 and 02). It didn't appear to be accepted (even into the recent files list) so I uploaded just the first picture as a PNG. Still no joy.

Then the server was dead, with the SQL error that I'm sure you know since it's fixed now.

I haven't tried .tar.gz, and seeing as how it's only a few dozen pictures it's probably not really worth the trouble save to know if it works; I can just use one of the backend tools to iteratively load them, if you think it'll be all right. I'm also on a commercial but low-bandwidth host now, so I could really host them if you'd prefer that.

-
On another note, would you notice if I used your talk page? I'm sending this through Yoohoo%!? since my home computer doesn't seem to like sshd running anymore, but the talk page would probably be more appropriate.

<Since you posted to my talk page before I could send this, I'll avoid the old RFCs this way. :)>

-
Finally, Outlook doesn't hang up when the connection's gone...

==2005-12-22 17:54 Further information==
So I dug up a real browser (i.e. not IE, aiee!), and get the ever-stimulating "Connection closed by remote server" dialog after each upload.

Any clues?

Thanks ->Tim
==2005-12-23 09:02 from Woozle==
Got your message. Not sure what's up; I recently installed an anti-spam extension, which seems to be working, and I don't ''think'' that should be affecting the uploading ability... but I'm out of town right now, on a dial-up, and not really equipped to check.

You'll probably need to upload files in their destination format, i.e. jpg or png (gif also should work, but for any given gif, png is usually smaller). I can configure the software to accept additional formats, but I don't think it would be able to show them as anything except a downloadable binary (i.e. you can't upload a bunch of images as a .tar.gz and have them automatically unzip, afaik, though I should remember to ask if this is feature is in the works because it would be quite useful).

I will try to remember to test uploads this weekend, after I get back; feel free to leave another message to remind me.

Cheers! --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 09:07, 23 December 2005 (EST)

==2005-12-29 21:55 "Uploading?" from Tdcrone==
I don't see any recently uploaded files... any status? :)

Thanks,
-Tim
===Editor's Note===
I seem to remember that my message below was in response to the one above, despite the timestamps, but maybe I'm confusing the above message with a different one. --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 08:45, 30 December 2005 (EST)
==2005-12-29 17:09 from Woozle==

Got your message -- I just tried uploading a file and had no problems. Do you want to email me the file you're trying to upload and I'll try that? --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 17:09, 29 December 2005 (EST)

==2005-12-30 01:14 from Tdcrone==

The first one is:

[http://trifs.dyndns.org/pinecrest_01.png]

Fortunately I never bothered to set a max size, each file is aroung 10MB.

It occurs to me that perhaps the size is the matter...

Thanks,
-Tim
===Editor's Note===
Ok, the timestamp is definitely wrong here; the next message is in response to this one. --{{woozle}}
==2005-12-29 21:38 ok, yes, there's still a problem ==

I created a much smaller version of the file (200k) and was able to upload it, but this new server we're on now (as of about 2 days ago) is much more strict about security and they've turned off some stuff to which MediaWiki needs access in order to resize images... so the raw image is there, but all the resized versions are broken. I'm waiting for the sysadmin who knows of these things to get back from a funeral so we can work something out; hopefully sometime this weekend. Meantime, remind me to set up an FTP account so you can just upload things without going through the wiki (too close to bed time at the moment). --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 21:38, 29 December 2005 (EST)

== OT: Timestamp issues ==

Not really on topic, but I neglected to set my time zone so all my times are +5 (i.e. 12:00 should be 7:00). Based on this post, it appears to be fixed. Sorry... :)

HTYP talk:2005-12 Discussion about image uploads

2005-12-30T15:35:06Z

Tdcrone: OT: Timestamp issues

[[Category:2005-12]][[Category:Dated Items]]
==Usage Notes==
* I thought at first that "watching" a page would cause email notifications to be sent to all watchers when it changed, but unfortunately this does not appear to be the case, at least as currently configured. So for now, we'll each post an "updated [time]" notice on each other's talk pages so we know to check here...
* To add a new entry, click the "+" tab at top.
==2005-12-21 16:49 from {{Woozle}}==
Heya Tim (or is it Pam Winton using Tim's account?) -- let me know if you're having difficulty with the images. Cheers! --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 16:49, 21 December 2005 (EST)

==2005-12-22 17:43 from [[User:Tdcrone|Tdcrone]]==
<was almost an e-mail>

Nick,

So, after leaving them to sit patiently for what, three months now, I started to upload the Pinecrest scrapbook pictures yesterday... only to watch the server crash terribly and painfully shortly after.

First, I uploaded a .zip of two of the pictures (01 and 02). It didn't appear to be accepted (even into the recent files list) so I uploaded just the first picture as a PNG. Still no joy.

Then the server was dead, with the SQL error that I'm sure you know since it's fixed now.

I haven't tried .tar.gz, and seeing as how it's only a few dozen pictures it's probably not really worth the trouble save to know if it works; I can just use one of the backend tools to iteratively load them, if you think it'll be all right. I'm also on a commercial but low-bandwidth host now, so I could really host them if you'd prefer that.

-
On another note, would you notice if I used your talk page? I'm sending this through Yoohoo%!? since my home computer doesn't seem to like sshd running anymore, but the talk page would probably be more appropriate.

<Since you posted to my talk page before I could send this, I'll avoid the old RFCs this way. :)>

-
Finally, Outlook doesn't hang up when the connection's gone...

==2005-12-22 17:54 Further information==
So I dug up a real browser (i.e. not IE, aiee!), and get the ever-stimulating "Connection closed by remote server" dialog after each upload.

Any clues?

Thanks ->Tim
==2005-12-23 09:02 from Woozle==
Got your message. Not sure what's up; I recently installed an anti-spam extension, which seems to be working, and I don't ''think'' that should be affecting the uploading ability... but I'm out of town right now, on a dial-up, and not really equipped to check.

You'll probably need to upload files in their destination format, i.e. jpg or png (gif also should work, but for any given gif, png is usually smaller). I can configure the software to accept additional formats, but I don't think it would be able to show them as anything except a downloadable binary (i.e. you can't upload a bunch of images as a .tar.gz and have them automatically unzip, afaik, though I should remember to ask if this is feature is in the works because it would be quite useful).

I will try to remember to test uploads this weekend, after I get back; feel free to leave another message to remind me.

Cheers! --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 09:07, 23 December 2005 (EST)

==2005-12-29 21:55 "Uploading?" from Tdcrone==
I don't see any recently uploaded files... any status? :)

Thanks,
-Tim
===Editor's Note===
I seem to remember that my message below was in response to the one above, despite the timestamps, but maybe I'm confusing the above message with a different one. --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 08:45, 30 December 2005 (EST)
==2005-12-29 17:09 from Woozle==

Got your message -- I just tried uploading a file and had no problems. Do you want to email me the file you're trying to upload and I'll try that? --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 17:09, 29 December 2005 (EST)

==2005-12-30 01:14 from Tdcrone==

The first one is:

[http://trifs.dyndns.org/pinecrest_01.png]

Fortunately I never bothered to set a max size, each file is aroung 10MB.

It occurs to me that perhaps the size is the matter...

Thanks,
-Tim
===Editor's Note===
Ok, the timestamp is definitely wrong here; the next message is in response to this one. --{{woozle}}
==2005-12-29 21:38 ok, yes, there's still a problem ==

I created a much smaller version of the file (200k) and was able to upload it, but this new server we're on now (as of about 2 days ago) is much more strict about security and they've turned off some stuff to which MediaWiki needs access in order to resize images... so the raw image is there, but all the resized versions are broken. I'm waiting for the sysadmin who knows of these things to get back from a funeral so we can work something out; hopefully sometime this weekend. Meantime, remind me to set up an FTP account so you can just upload things without going through the wiki (too close to bed time at the moment). --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 21:38, 29 December 2005 (EST)

== OT: Timestamp issues ==

Not really on topic, but I neglected to set my time zone so all my times are +5 (i.e. 12:00 should be 7:00).

User talk:Woozle

2005-12-30T01:14:50Z

Tdcrone: File for upload

<was almost an e-mail>

Nick,

So, after leaving them to sit patiently for what, three months now, I started to upload the Pinecrest scrapbook pictures yesterday... only to watch the server crash terribly and painfully shortly after.

First, I uploaded a .zip of two of the pictures (01 and 02). It didn't appear to be accepted (even into the recent files list) so I uploaded just the first picture as a PNG. Still no joy.

Then the server was dead, with the SQL error that I'm sure you know since it's fixed now.

I haven't tried .tar.gz, and seeing as how it's only a few dozen pictures it's probably not really worth the trouble save to know if it works; I can just use one of the backend tools to iteratively load them, if you think it'll be all right. I'm also on a commercial but low-bandwidth host now, so I could really host them if you'd prefer that.

-
On another note, would you notice if I used your talk page? I'm sending this through Yoohoo%!? since my home computer doesn't seem to like sshd running anymore, but the talk page would probably be more appropriate.

<Since you posted to my talk page before I could send this, I'll avoid the old RFCs this way. :)>

-
Finally, Outlook doesn't hang up when the connection's gone...

== Further information ==

So I dug up a real browser (i.e. not IE, aiee!), and get the ever-stimulating "Connection closed by remote server" dialog after each upload.

Any clues?

Thanks ->Tim

== Uploading? ==

I don't see any recently uploaded files... any status? :)

Thanks,
-Tim

== File for upload ==

The first one is:

[http://trifs.dyndns.org/pinecrest_01.png]

Fortunately I never bothered to set a max size, each file is aroung 10MB.

It occurs to me that perhaps the size is the matter...

Thanks,
-Tim

User talk:Woozle

2005-12-29T21:55:51Z

Tdcrone: Uploading?

User:Tdcrone

2005-12-22T17:56:58Z

Tdcrone: Link to Woozle talk page

Heya Tim (or is it Pam Winton using Tim's account?) -- let me know if you're having difficulty with the images. Cheers! --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 16:49, 21 December 2005 (EST)

It's Tim, I put my content in your talk page. [[User_talk:Woozle]]

User talk:Woozle

2005-12-22T17:54:26Z

Tdcrone: Further information

User talk:Woozle

2005-12-22T17:43:09Z

Tdcrone:

US/NC/Durham/neighborhoods/Pinecrest Road/scrapbook

2005-12-21T18:51:14Z

Tdcrone: /* Introduction */

Please be advised this is a work in progress. I haven't come to any fixed form for the archive, so right now everything is just inserted, like my basement, chaotically. Eventually I'll reorganize so things are a bit more useful...

==Introduction==
Pam Winton, who is still the official Pinecrest Road historian because no one else wants to do it, went through the scrapbook and created preliminary lists of people in the pictures. There's a decent chance that I've mistyped some names, so please fix them if they appear incorrect... also, I appear to have knocked a couple off in the carrying and don't know where they should go.

The names default to order by left to right, comments in parentheses; an italicized name means the person is deceased, emboldened means the person still lives on the street. Each caption links to a picture which exists both here and in the hardcopy scrapbook.

Pictures printed in 1986:

[[[[Image:Pinecrest_01.png]]]]
* '''Richard Palmer'''
* '''Pam Winton'''
* ''Mary Beach''
* ?
* Ginny Cobo (moved to LA)
* Nora Cobo (child)
* ''Mike Cobo''
* '''Janet Hall'''
* '''Bob Winton'''

[[[[Image:Pinecrest_02.png]]]]
* '''Pam Winton'''
* ''Mary Beach''
* ?
* Nora Cobo (now 23 years old)
* Pat Kalayjian (rented Hylander house on sabbatical year)
* ? Kalayjian (ditto)
* '''Bob Winton'''
* '''Richard Palmer'''
* Waldo Beach

[[Pinecrest 03]]
* Waldo Beach
* ?

[[Pinecrest 04]]
* Bryan Flowers (parents still live here)
* Conrad Hall (ditto)
* James Cobo
* Tyler Winton (ditto)

[[Pinecrest 05]]
?

[[Pinecrest 06]]
* ''Mike Cobo''
* '''Janet Hall'''
* '''Bob Winton'''

[[Pinecrest 07]]
* Sarah Palmer

[[Pinecrest 08]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 09]]
* '''Pam Winton''''
* Scott Winton
* Bob Winton
* (background) Mike Cobo
* (background) Pat Kalayjian

[[Pinecrest 10]]
* Janice Palmer
* ?

[[Pinecrest 11]]
* ?
* Jimmy and Nora Cobo
* '''Monte Moses'''
* Marlene Moses
* ?
* ?
* ?

[[Pinecrest 12]]
* ?
* ?
* ?
* Teresa Murray

[[Pinecrest 13]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 14]]
* Ben Palmer
* Richard Palmer
* Sarah Palmer

[[Pinecrest 15]]
* Ben Palmer
* Richard Palmer
* Sarah Palmer

[[Pinecrest 16]]
* Leslie Harper Putchett (on bike)
* Martha Putchett
* Elizabeth Putchett (twin 1)
* Posten Putchett (twin 2)

[[Pinecrest 17]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 18]]
* ''Ed Krantz''
* Nancy Roche
* Carolyn Roche

[[Pinecrest 19]]
* Putchett Twins

[[Pinecrest 20]]
* Alice Richmond (striped pants)
* Waldo's Orchestra

[[Pinecrest 21]]
* Waldo and Mary Beach with Pinecrest Philharmonic

[[Pinecrest 22]]
* Waldo and Pinecrest Philharmonic with Sarah Palmer on Washtub

[[Pinecrest 23]]
* Ditto

[[Pinecrest 24]]
* Monte Moses Performing Magic

[[Pinecrest 25]]
* Pinecrest Philharmonic, 1987

[[Pinecrest 26]]
* Rock Entertainment at Block Party (Berin Linfors, Tyler Winton, and Jeff Crumbliss)

A more recent year
[[Pinecrest 27]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 28]]
* ?

[[Pinecrest 29]]
* ? and ?
* ?
* '''Diane Linfors (overalls)'''
* '''Nell Cant'''
* '''Brian Towey'''
* '''Bob Zucker and Janet Hall'''
* Donna Crenshaw

[[Pinecrest 30]]
* '''Sally Wardell'''
* '''Meg Thompson'''
* '''Lew Wardell'''
* (unknown young girls in foreground)

[[Pinecrest 31]]
* ?
* '''Berndt Mueller'''
* '''Robert Truesdale'''
* '''Angelica Mueller'''
* '''Pam Winton'''
* '''Chris Nicchita'''
* Missy Kranz (plaid shirt sitting)

[[Pinecrest 32]]
(Background)
* '''Lew and Sally Wardell'''
* '''Bob Winton'''
(Foreground)
* '''Berndt Mueller'''
* Brett Winton
(Background)
* '''Chris and Cheryl Micchita''' with baby
* '''Robert Truesdale'''
* Kari Linfors (blonde)

Another more recent year:
[[Pinecrest 33]]
* '''Janet Hall'''
* '''Bob Zucker'''
* ?
* ?
* ?
* '''David Solomon''' (bald head)
* '''Brian Towey'''
* '''Gene Linfors''' (baseball cap)
* Bob Winton

[[Pinecrest 34]]
* Janice Palmer
* Mary Beach

[[Pinecrest 35]]
Crowd, including foreground:
* '''Nell Cant'''
* '''Robert Truesdale''' with Tom or Linus
* Monica Rossman (in sunglasses)
* '''Monte Moses'''
* Laura Solomon (sitting in front of table)

[[Pinecrest 36]]
* ''Waldo Beach''
* '''Hugh Maxwell'''
* '''Janet Hall'''
* '''Bob Zucker'''
* '''David Solomon'''
* '''Brian Towey'''
* '''Liz Delong'''
* '''Pat O'Connor''' (background)
* '''David Delong'''
* '''Meg Thompson''''s back
* Dan Thompson

US/NC/Durham/neighborhoods/Pinecrest Road/parking

2005-10-23T18:38:54Z

Tdcrone: /* Public Records Request */ Rest of the ALT tags

[[Pinecrest Road Neighborhood]]: [[Pinecrest north-side parking ban]]
[[Image:2005-09-30 City of Durham re Pinecrest.web.png|thumb|right|letter from the City of Durham]]
* '''2005-10-01''' The City of Durham says they will soon be forbidding parking on the north side of old Pinecrest, in an effort to allow fire engines to get through faster. (This will also no doubt aid the many morning commuters, who also use Pinecrest as the fastest route between Point A and Point B, to get to their respective fires.) Should we start an online petition about this? Some pictures showing the available space in the road (hover over thumbnails to see caption; click on thumbnail for larger picture):
[[Image:PA030001 opposing cars on pinecrest.jpg|200px|Two cars, parked opposite each other on the Academy-Dogwood section of Pinecrest Road]]
[[Image:PA030002 tape measure crossing street.jpg|200px|Tape measure crossing between the two cars, showing the whole tape measure and a distance of at least 11'4"]]
[[Image:PA030003 tape measure at car.jpg|200px|Tape measure at right-hand car, showing that the distance is closer to 12 feet]]
==Public Records Request==
After an NC Public Records request, the following information was received, including a copy of the initial request. I have included all pages, many of which are from the Durham GIS - and somewhat outdated at that. I did not attempt OCR specifically so this public-but-personal information is not easily used for nefarious purposes. The 16 pages linked here comprise the entirety of the public records supplied, though astute observers may note other undocumented references.

Of particular interest to readers are the dates on these records; take note of which dates were added by computers and which were added by people.

[[Image:pubrec_parking_1.png|200px|Cover Letter]][[Image:pubrec_parking_2.png|200px|Updated computer log]][[Image:pubrec_parking_3.png|200px|Updated computer log, page 2]][[Image:pubrec_parking_4.png|200px|Original computer log with handwritten annotations]][[Image:pubrec_parking_5.png|200px|Street and area map]][[Image:pubrec_parking_6.png|200px|Letter that was sent to residents]][[Image:pubrec_parking_7.png|200px|GIS Request 1, page 1]][[Image:pubrec_parking_8.png|200px|GIS Request 1, page 2]][[Image:pubrec_parking_9.png|200px|GIS Request 2, page 1]][[Image:pubrec_parking_10.png|200px|GIS Request 2, page 2]][[Image:pubrec_parking_11.png|200px|GIS Request 3, page 1]][[Image:pubrec_parking_12.png|200px|GIS Request 3, page 2]][[Image:pubrec_parking_13.png|200px|Lengthy e-mail conversation about public records]][[Image:pubrec_parking_14.png|200px|Lengthy e-mail conversation about public records, page 2]][[Image:pubrec_parking_15.png|200px|Brief e-mail conversation about speed humps]][[Image:pubrec_parking_16.png|200px|Work order for "No Trucks" signs]]

==Related Issues==
* What ever happened to speed humps? I gather that the current obstacle is funding. How do we keep updated on this so that we will have a petition ready when there's funding again?

US/NC/Durham/neighborhoods/Pinecrest Road/parking

2005-10-23T18:35:37Z

Tdcrone: /* Public Records Request */ ALT tags for images

[[Pinecrest Road Neighborhood]]: [[Pinecrest north-side parking ban]]
[[Image:2005-09-30 City of Durham re Pinecrest.web.png|thumb|right|letter from the City of Durham]]
* '''2005-10-01''' The City of Durham says they will soon be forbidding parking on the north side of old Pinecrest, in an effort to allow fire engines to get through faster. (This will also no doubt aid the many morning commuters, who also use Pinecrest as the fastest route between Point A and Point B, to get to their respective fires.) Should we start an online petition about this? Some pictures showing the available space in the road (hover over thumbnails to see caption; click on thumbnail for larger picture):
[[Image:PA030001 opposing cars on pinecrest.jpg|200px|Two cars, parked opposite each other on the Academy-Dogwood section of Pinecrest Road]]
[[Image:PA030002 tape measure crossing street.jpg|200px|Tape measure crossing between the two cars, showing the whole tape measure and a distance of at least 11'4"]]
[[Image:PA030003 tape measure at car.jpg|200px|Tape measure at right-hand car, showing that the distance is closer to 12 feet]]
==Public Records Request==
After an NC Public Records request, the following information was received, including a copy of the initial request. I have included all pages, many of which are from the Durham GIS - and somewhat outdated at that. I did not attempt OCR specifically so this public-but-personal information is not easily used for nefarious purposes. The 16 pages linked here comprise the entirety of the public records supplied, though astute observers may note other undocumented references.

Of particular interest to readers are the dates on these records; take note of which dates were added by computers and which were added by people.

[[Image:pubrec_parking_1.png|200px|Cover Letter]][[Image:pubrec_parking_2.png|200px|Updated computer log]][[Image:pubrec_parking_3.png|200px|Updated computer log, page 2]][[Image:pubrec_parking_4.png|200px|Original computer log with handwritten annotations]][[Image:pubrec_parking_5.png|200px|Street and area map]][[Image:pubrec_parking_6.png|200px|Letter that was sent to residents]][[Image:pubrec_parking_7.png|200px|GIS Request 1, page 1]][[Image:pubrec_parking_8.png|200px|GIS Request 1, page 2]][[Image:pubrec_parking_9.png|200px|GIS Request 2, page 1]][[Image:pubrec_parking_10.png|200px|GIS Request 2, page 2]][[Image:pubrec_parking_11.png|200px|GIS Request 3, page 1]][[Image:pubrec_parking_12.png|200px|GIS Request 3, page 2]][[Image:pubrec_parking_13.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_14.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_15.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_16.png|200px]]

==Related Issues==
* What ever happened to speed humps? I gather that the current obstacle is funding. How do we keep updated on this so that we will have a petition ready when there's funding again?

US/NC/Durham/neighborhoods/Pinecrest Road/parking

2005-10-23T18:33:30Z

Tdcrone: /* Public Records Request */

[[Pinecrest Road Neighborhood]]: [[Pinecrest north-side parking ban]]
[[Image:2005-09-30 City of Durham re Pinecrest.web.png|thumb|right|letter from the City of Durham]]
* '''2005-10-01''' The City of Durham says they will soon be forbidding parking on the north side of old Pinecrest, in an effort to allow fire engines to get through faster. (This will also no doubt aid the many morning commuters, who also use Pinecrest as the fastest route between Point A and Point B, to get to their respective fires.) Should we start an online petition about this? Some pictures showing the available space in the road (hover over thumbnails to see caption; click on thumbnail for larger picture):
[[Image:PA030001 opposing cars on pinecrest.jpg|200px|Two cars, parked opposite each other on the Academy-Dogwood section of Pinecrest Road]]
[[Image:PA030002 tape measure crossing street.jpg|200px|Tape measure crossing between the two cars, showing the whole tape measure and a distance of at least 11'4"]]
[[Image:PA030003 tape measure at car.jpg|200px|Tape measure at right-hand car, showing that the distance is closer to 12 feet]]
==Public Records Request==
After an NC Public Records request, the following information was received, including a copy of the initial request. I have included all pages, many of which are from the Durham GIS - and somewhat outdated at that. I did not attempt OCR specifically so this public-but-personal information is not easily used for nefarious purposes. The 16 pages linked here comprise the entirety of the public records supplied, though astute observers may note other undocumented references.

Of particular interest to readers are the dates on these records; take note of which dates were added by computers and which were added by people.

[[Image:pubrec_parking_1.png|200px|Cover Letter]][[Image:pubrec_parking_2.png|200px|Updated computer log]][[Image:pubrec_parking_3.png|200px|Updated computer log, page 2]][[Image:pubrec_parking_4.png|200px|Original computer log with handwritten annotations]][[Image:pubrec_parking_5.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_6.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_7.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_8.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_9.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_10.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_11.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_12.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_13.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_14.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_15.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_16.png|200px]]

==Related Issues==
* What ever happened to speed humps? I gather that the current obstacle is funding. How do we keep updated on this so that we will have a petition ready when there's funding again?

US/NC/Durham/neighborhoods/Pinecrest Road/parking

2005-10-23T18:31:13Z

Tdcrone: /* Public Records Request */

[[Pinecrest Road Neighborhood]]: [[Pinecrest north-side parking ban]]
[[Image:2005-09-30 City of Durham re Pinecrest.web.png|thumb|right|letter from the City of Durham]]
* '''2005-10-01''' The City of Durham says they will soon be forbidding parking on the north side of old Pinecrest, in an effort to allow fire engines to get through faster. (This will also no doubt aid the many morning commuters, who also use Pinecrest as the fastest route between Point A and Point B, to get to their respective fires.) Should we start an online petition about this? Some pictures showing the available space in the road (hover over thumbnails to see caption; click on thumbnail for larger picture):
[[Image:PA030001 opposing cars on pinecrest.jpg|200px|Two cars, parked opposite each other on the Academy-Dogwood section of Pinecrest Road]]
[[Image:PA030002 tape measure crossing street.jpg|200px|Tape measure crossing between the two cars, showing the whole tape measure and a distance of at least 11'4"]]
[[Image:PA030003 tape measure at car.jpg|200px|Tape measure at right-hand car, showing that the distance is closer to 12 feet]]
==Public Records Request==
After an NC Public Records request, the following information was received, including a copy of the initial request. I have included all pages, many of which are from the Durham GIS - and somewhat outdated at that. I did not attempt OCR specifically so this public-but-personal information is not easily used for nefarious purposes. The 16 pages linked here comprise the entirety of the public records supplied, though astute observers may note other undocumented references.

Of particular interest to readers are the dates on these records; take note of which dates were added by computers and which were added by people.

[[Image:pubrec_parking_1.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_2.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_3.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_4.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_5.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_6.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_7.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_8.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_9.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_10.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_11.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_12.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_13.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_14.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_15.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_16.png|200px]]

==Related Issues==
* What ever happened to speed humps? I gather that the current obstacle is funding. How do we keep updated on this so that we will have a petition ready when there's funding again?

US/NC/Durham/neighborhoods/Pinecrest Road/parking

2005-10-23T18:24:04Z

Tdcrone:

[[Pinecrest Road Neighborhood]]: [[Pinecrest north-side parking ban]]
[[Image:2005-09-30 City of Durham re Pinecrest.web.png|thumb|right|letter from the City of Durham]]
* '''2005-10-01''' The City of Durham says they will soon be forbidding parking on the north side of old Pinecrest, in an effort to allow fire engines to get through faster. (This will also no doubt aid the many morning commuters, who also use Pinecrest as the fastest route between Point A and Point B, to get to their respective fires.) Should we start an online petition about this? Some pictures showing the available space in the road (hover over thumbnails to see caption; click on thumbnail for larger picture):
[[Image:PA030001 opposing cars on pinecrest.jpg|200px|Two cars, parked opposite each other on the Academy-Dogwood section of Pinecrest Road]]
[[Image:PA030002 tape measure crossing street.jpg|200px|Tape measure crossing between the two cars, showing the whole tape measure and a distance of at least 11'4"]]
[[Image:PA030003 tape measure at car.jpg|200px|Tape measure at right-hand car, showing that the distance is closer to 12 feet]]
==Public Records Request==
After an NC Public Records request, the following information was received, including a copy of the initial request. I have included all pages, many of which are from the Durham GIS - and somewhat outdated at that. I did not attempt OCR specifically so this public-but-personal information is not easily used for nefarious purposes. The 16 pages linked here comprise the entirety of the public records supplied, though astute observers may note other undocumented references.

[[Image:pubrec_parking_1.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_2.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_3.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_4.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_5.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_6.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_7.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_8.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_9.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_10.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_11.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_12.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_13.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_14.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_15.png|200px]][[Image:pubrec_parking_16.png|200px]]

==Related Issues==
* What ever happened to speed humps? I gather that the current obstacle is funding. How do we keep updated on this so that we will have a petition ready when there's funding again?

US/NC/Durham/neighborhoods/Pinecrest Road/parking

2005-10-23T18:21:57Z

Tdcrone:

[[Pinecrest Road Neighborhood]]: [[Pinecrest north-side parking ban]]
[[Image:2005-09-30 City of Durham re Pinecrest.web.png|thumb|right|letter from the City of Durham]]
* '''2005-10-01''' The City of Durham says they will soon be forbidding parking on the north side of old Pinecrest, in an effort to allow fire engines to get through faster. (This will also no doubt aid the many morning commuters, who also use Pinecrest as the fastest route between Point A and Point B, to get to their respective fires.) Should we start an online petition about this? Some pictures showing the available space in the road (hover over thumbnails to see caption; click on thumbnail for larger picture):
[[Image:PA030001 opposing cars on pinecrest.jpg|200px|Two cars, parked opposite each other on the Academy-Dogwood section of Pinecrest Road]]
[[Image:PA030002 tape measure crossing street.jpg|200px|Tape measure crossing between the two cars, showing the whole tape measure and a distance of at least 11'4"]]
[[Image:PA030003 tape measure at car.jpg|200px|Tape measure at right-hand car, showing that the distance is closer to 12 feet]]
==Public Records Request==
After an NC Public Records request, the following information was received, including a copy of the initial request. I have included all pages, many of which are from the Durham GIS - and somewhat outdated at that. I did not attempt OCR specifically so this public-but-personal information is not easily used for nefarious purposes. The 16 pages linked here comprise the entirety of the public records supplied, though astute observers may note other undocumented references.

[[Image:pubrec_parking_1.png|thumb]][[Image:pubrec_parking_2.png|thumb]][[Image:pubrec_parking_3.png|thumb]][[Image:pubrec_parking_4.png|thumb]][[Image:pubrec_parking_5.png|thumb]][[Image:pubrec_parking_6.png|thumb]][[Image:pubrec_parking_7.png|thumb]][[Image:pubrec_parking_8.png|thumb]][[Image:pubrec_parking_9.png|thumb]][[Image:pubrec_parking_10.png|thumb]][[Image:pubrec_parking_11.png|thumb]][[Image:pubrec_parking_12.png|thumb]][[Image:pubrec_parking_13.png|thumb]][[Image:pubrec_parking_14.png|thumb]][[Image:pubrec_parking_15.png|thumb]][[Image:pubrec_parking_16.png|thumb]]

==Related Issues==
* What ever happened to speed humps? I gather that the current obstacle is funding. How do we keep updated on this so that we will have a petition ready when there's funding again?

US/NC/Durham/neighborhoods/Pinecrest Road/parking

2005-10-23T18:20:49Z

Tdcrone: Guess that's why I should preview!

[[Pinecrest Road Neighborhood]]: [[Pinecrest north-side parking ban]]
[[Image:2005-09-30 City of Durham re Pinecrest.web.png|thumb|right|letter from the City of Durham]]
* '''2005-10-01''' The City of Durham says they will soon be forbidding parking on the north side of old Pinecrest, in an effort to allow fire engines to get through faster. (This will also no doubt aid the many morning commuters, who also use Pinecrest as the fastest route between Point A and Point B, to get to their respective fires.) Should we start an online petition about this? Some pictures showing the available space in the road (hover over thumbnails to see caption; click on thumbnail for larger picture):
[[Image:PA030001 opposing cars on pinecrest.jpg|200px|Two cars, parked opposite each other on the Academy-Dogwood section of Pinecrest Road]]
[[Image:PA030002 tape measure crossing street.jpg|200px|Tape measure crossing between the two cars, showing the whole tape measure and a distance of at least 11'4"]]
[[Image:PA030003 tape measure at car.jpg|200px|Tape measure at right-hand car, showing that the distance is closer to 12 feet]]
==Public Records Request==
After an NC Public Records request, the following information was received, including a copy of the initial request. I have included all pages, many of which are from the Durham GIS - and somewhat outdated at that. I did not attempt OCR specifically so this public-but-personal information is not easily used for nefarious purposes. The 16 pages linked here comprise the entirety of the public records supplied, though astute observers may note other undocumented references.

[[Image:pubrec_parking_1.png|thumb|left]][[Image:pubrec_parking_2.png|thumb|right]][[Image:pubrec_parking_3.png|thumb|left]][[Image:pubrec_parking_4.png|thumb|right]][[Image:pubrec_parking_5.png|thumb|left]][[Image:pubrec_parking_6.png|thumb|right]][[Image:pubrec_parking_7.png|thumb|left]][[Image:pubrec_parking_8.png|thumb|right]][[Image:pubrec_parking_9.png|thumb|left]][[Image:pubrec_parking_10.png|thumb|right]][[Image:pubrec_parking_11.png|thumb|left]][[Image:pubrec_parking_12.png|thumb|right]][[Image:pubrec_parking_13.png|thumb|left]][[Image:pubrec_parking_14.png|thumb|right]][[Image:pubrec_parking_15.png|thumb|left]][[Image:pubrec_parking_16.png|thumb|right]]

==Related Issues==
* What ever happened to speed humps? I gather that the current obstacle is funding. How do we keep updated on this so that we will have a petition ready when there's funding again?

US/NC/Durham/neighborhoods/Pinecrest Road/parking

2005-10-23T18:18:35Z

Tdcrone: /* FOIA Request Draft */ Major Change, insert reply, remove text form of request

[[Pinecrest Road Neighborhood]]: [[Pinecrest north-side parking ban]]
[[Image:2005-09-30 City of Durham re Pinecrest.web.png|thumb|right|letter from the City of Durham]]
* '''2005-10-01''' The City of Durham says they will soon be forbidding parking on the north side of old Pinecrest, in an effort to allow fire engines to get through faster. (This will also no doubt aid the many morning commuters, who also use Pinecrest as the fastest route between Point A and Point B, to get to their respective fires.) Should we start an online petition about this? Some pictures showing the available space in the road (hover over thumbnails to see caption; click on thumbnail for larger picture):
[[Image:PA030001 opposing cars on pinecrest.jpg|200px|Two cars, parked opposite each other on the Academy-Dogwood section of Pinecrest Road]]
[[Image:PA030002 tape measure crossing street.jpg|200px|Tape measure crossing between the two cars, showing the whole tape measure and a distance of at least 11'4"]]
[[Image:PA030003 tape measure at car.jpg|200px|Tape measure at right-hand car, showing that the distance is closer to 12 feet]]
==Public Records Request==
After an NC Public Records request, the following information was received, including a copy of the initial request. I have included all pages, many of which are from the Durham GIS - and somewhat outdated at that. I did not attempt OCR specifically so this public-but-personal information is not easily used for nefarious purposes. The 16 pages linked here comprise the entirety of the public records supplied, though astute observers may note other undocumented references.

[[Image:pubrec_parking_1.png]][[Image:pubrec_parking_2.png]][[Image:pubrec_parking_3.png]][[Image:pubrec_parking_4.png]][[Image:pubrec_parking_5.png]][[Image:pubrec_parking_6.png]][[Image:pubrec_parking_7.png]][[Image:pubrec_parking_8.png]][[Image:pubrec_parking_9.png]][[Image:pubrec_parking_10.png]][[Image:pubrec_parking_11.png]][[Image:pubrec_parking_12.png]][[Image:pubrec_parking_13.png]][[Image:pubrec_parking_14.png]][[Image:pubrec_parking_15.png]][[Image:pubrec_parking_16.png]]

==Related Issues==
* What ever happened to speed humps? I gather that the current obstacle is funding. How do we keep updated on this so that we will have a petition ready when there's funding again?